The Informant! Page #9

No, no, I want to tell.

Mr. Whitacre's conduct constitutes

a breach of agreement...

...with the U.S. government.

He is no longer a cooperating witness.

This is outrageous.

My client has given you years of his life.

Clearly, he made mistakes,

but he made your case.

We are not here to discuss the case

against ADM.

Mr. Whitacre, my name is Ed Herbst...

...and I am with the FBI's

Economic Crimes Unit.

This is Mary Spearing

and Don McKay...

...from the Department

of Justice Fraud Divisin.

And we were wondering

if you could tell us...

...when your criminal conduct

at ADM began.

In early 1992...

...I was taught how things are done

there by Mick Andreas...

...who showed me

how to use embezzlements...

...and kickbacks

in order to make money tax-free.

My client is voluntarily...

No, I'm aware that the fraud

that I perpetrated...

...was wrong and...

...I accept responsibility.

How did you receive the money?

By check. They would deposit the check

to my account in Decatur.

They paid kickbacks in checks?

What company would pay kickbacks

in checks?

Well, I don't remember the name

of the company.

It was, like, Agra Consulting and Trading

or something like that.

You don't remember the company

that paid you checks?

It's hard to remember for me right now.

I have things going on in my life,

in case you haven't been reading papers.

We're coming to you. We're cooperating.

We're gonna get the money back.

I think this might help your memory.

Now, where did we get those?

These are ADM documents

showing forging of signatures.

Didn't these people see The Firm?

Or read the book?

It's all there. Everything they did to me,

they did to Tom Cruise.

I'm not the one they should be mad at.

We can't see you anymore.

And if you call us and start to talk

about the case, we'll have to hang up.

You can talk to us about your feelings...

...but that's it.

Mark, please understand.

It's not what we want.

We got no choice here.

You know, the thing of it is,

all of my anger, all of my frustration...

...stems from my work with you guys.

And all this crap in the paper...

My kids are seeing this.

And it's all just dump on Mark Whitacre.

Remember, Mark, we told you

it would be impossible to predict...

...what would happen

when the case went public.

You never told us

about the $5 million you took.

I don't see what that has to do

with the price fixing.

He worked for you

for two and a half years.

He risked his career, his home...

...and now you just turn your back on him

and leave us out here.

Yes, Ginger.

The reason we came here today...

...is because we're concerned

about your and Mark's well-being.

It's important you tell the people

in Washington everything tomorrow.

One hundred percent.

You would have nothing without him,

and you know it.

He's being used by the government,

then thrown away...

...because it's easier to go after Mark

Whitacre than anyone named Andreas.

We took the kids one year

to the Renaissance festival.

You get to be the white knight.

The kids get to ride a horse and joust

against the forces of darkness.

The white knight always wins. The forces

of darkness fall onto an old mattress.

Someone plays a lute

and plays a song from medieval times.

It was 90 degrees,

and the heat and humidity index...

...I can't even remember

what the radio said.

We were next in line and the mare

collapsed, went down in a heap.

Ginger was eating Ye Olde Drumstick

and she dropped it. The kids were crying.

And I remember this farmer saying

he had a gun in his truck. Just like that.

From the white knight

to a gun in the truck.

They had everyone turn

before they put the animal down.

But even if you couldn't see,

you could still hear.

How do you get that back?

How does that get to be fair?

Well, he just kept buying things.

We had eight cars.

Three of them we never even used.

And how else has he changed?

Well, I was always the one

with the temper.

- Mm-hm.

- And Corky was the happy one.

But that's changed too.

- There's one in Hong Kong.

Mm-hm.

Then there are the accounts

in Switzerland and Grand Cayman.

Right, right.

Other things. There's a lawyer in New

York who's got a million dollars of mine.

Have you told your attorney

about these?

No, I don't need to tell...

Mark, you need to tell your attorney

about these accounts.

The assets were obtained legally.

I don't even know if I can trust him.

Has anyone in your family ever

been diagnosed with bipolar disorder?

You know, manic depressive?

I have an aunt

that they used to say that about.

Yeah?

In terms of my parents, I can't be sure.

My parents died in an automobile accident

when I was 6.

I was adopted by a wealthy man in Ohio.

He owned amusement parks.

I caught a big break there, big break.

So my client's here to cooperate fully.

Agent D'Angelo,

if you have any questions.

This is your chance to put everything

on the table.

This is your chance to redeem yourself.

But if you're not going to be completely

honest, just stop talking now.

I understand that.

I just want to tell you I feel...

...bad. I'm so sorry.

The last time we spoke,

I was under a great deal of stress.

And I said some things

that weren't true.

I want to clear that up.

The first kickback was in 1992.

Mick knew all about it.

He told me there were gonna

be opportunities to take kickbacks...

...on some of the contracts coming out

of Asia and Europe...

...that were ADM contracts.

Was there anyone else involved?

So, Mr. Richter, we have...

...money leaving your account

here and here...

...and here.

And it's going into Whitacre's account...

...his wife Ginger's account...

...and this is going

to Whitacre's parents' account.

Like I said, those are loans.

Uh-huh.

He had me set up a company,

Nordkron Chemie...

...and just, like, issue

these fake invoices to ADM.

And there was a bank account

in Hamburg...

...and so I would get a check

for like two hundred grand...

...and most of it would go back to Mark.

Ahem. Okay, look.

We know you're looking out

for your friend Mark...

...but your story doesn't seem true.

You're right, it's not true.

All the money went to Mark.

When did it start?

Mark told me about this Nigerian thing

he got in the mail.

You know about these schemes

with the Nigerian letters?

The 419 fraud?

Yeah, we see it every day.

You get a letter from some official

in Nigeria asking for a few grand to help.

- They promise a percentage of the money.

- Exactly.

You ever wonder who was dumb enough

to fall for something like that?

This is really embarrassing.

So how much money would you say

you made from your illegal activities?

Seven-point-seven million dollars.

But like I said, Mick knew all about that,

you know?

He endorsed that kind of behavior.

So not five, but seven-point-seven?

Seven-point-seven.

Jim, we all understand special

consideration, but we've got your guy.

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