The Jihadis Next Door Page #2

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alert level severe,

it seems essential

to understand the motives

and activities

of this secretive network.

Why do you like this location

so much?

It shows

the other side of the UK,

the working class

neighborhoods,

the dirt and just how it looks,

you know, it looks

like a ghetto sort of.

Four days later

I'm meeting an old friend

of Abu Rumaysah,

fellow preacher, Abu Haleema,

who, I'm surprised to learn,

sometimes works

as a London bus driver.

Well, today I'm thinking,

you know, over there

where they got that nice light.

I'm thinking we film there.

There's a lot of noise

from the traffic,

but there's a nice bit

of light. What do you think?

Yeah, yeah.

- Yeah, a nice bit

of light there.

See how it looks on the camera.

He's becoming

a social media sensation,

regularly making videos

for YouTube and Twitter

to recruit young Muslims

to radical Islam.

They're doing this

carrot and stick approach.

The carrot is where they say

to you, "Okay, yeah,

if you embrace democracy,

we'll fund your masjid.

We'll give you a knighthood,

we'll look after you,

but if you reject our systems,

we will oppress you,

we will arrest you,

we'll hassle your whole family.

We'll take away your money,

we'll try

and take away your house,

and we'll try and take

your children from you."

Stop worshiping this false god,

democracy, and come back

to worshiping Allah.

- What do you think?

- That's good.

One take.

Obviously, when

I started out first...

You know, I was speaking

too loosely

and I kept saying things

like "innit"

I've been trying to remove

that "innit."

It's not a good look.

It's a criminal offense

to support

a terrorist organization

like ISIS,

but it's clear to me

that Abu Haleema

is sympathetic.

However, when challenged

he refuses to admit this.

For the record, I don't support

the Islamic State.

Just for the record,

I'm not looking to get nicked.

Abu Haleema

wants to live

under Islamic law

but his passport

has been canceled

by the Home Secretary.

Theresa May can solve

this problem of extremism

very quick.

Give all of us back

our passports, let us leave,

and there won't be

a single extremist left

in this country.

But would you

take your family with you?

If I could, yes.

And if not,

would you go anyway?

- Yeah.

What do you think

you'd do when you get there?

Live under the shariah.

And what would that involve?

That would involve me

sitting there,

practicing Islam

the way I wanna practice

and getting paid,

getting my JSA

without having to sign on.

Whilst he's stuck

in the UK,

Abu Haleema is trying

to convert Britain

to strict Islamic law

where full covering of women,

outlawing alcohol,

gambling and homosexuality

would be enforced

by extreme punishments.

All the punishments

that are legislated by Allah.

The act that the homosexuals

do, that act is something

that Allah curses.

Allah curses that act,

so that is forbidden.

That is forbidden.

Anyone that gets caught doing

that act will be punished.

And what's the punishment?

Well, one of them

is obviously chucking them

off high buildings

and that's the one

that the Islamic State

seem to be implementing.

Where would

the punishments happen?

Would it be out in the square?

Of course, of course

because this is a deterrent.

People will see

and they'll know, "Okay,

we're gonna get named

and shamed like this as well.

We're gonna get

publicly humiliated like this

as well,

everyone is gonna know

what we've done."

So it works, it works.

Whereabouts in Ealing

do you think that would happen?

In Ealing... Uh...

Well, it could happen

in Haven Green,

they could make a little spot

in the middle over there

or something.

Ealing Common,

it could happen on.

- Do you think a lot of people

would come and watch it?

- Of course.

Is it not quite gruesome?

No, people like

that kind of stuff.

So this area here,

you think this could be good

for public punishments?

Of course.

So for instance if someone

has committed adultery

and it's been witnessed

then he'll be punished

according to his crime.

And what will happen

if he'd committed adultery,

what would be the punishment?

If he's committed adultery

then obviously

he'll be stoned to death.

And do you not

find that barbaric?

- This is perfect.

So we're not gonna condemn it,

we're not gonna say

it's barbaric,

we are not gonna say

it's not good.

Do you think Ealing

will ever be under the rule

of the Islamic State?

Of course, the whole world

will be under the shariah soon.

Why are you

such a troublemaker?

I'm not

necessarily a troublemaker...

- Yeah, you are, yeah, you are.

You are a shocking example

of your faith.

You are a very bad man,

Mohammed, and you should

hang your head in shame.

Go away!

Seven twenty nine.

Mohammed Shamsuddin

is the senior spokesman

for a group of radical Muslims.

He's suffered

with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

since he was 18

and lives on benefits.

He's been hard to pin down

for filming.

He finally agrees

but is even more careful

when I start asking him

about ISIS.

You could get ten years

just for saying something

which is reckless or careless.

You see what I'm saying to you?

Even though you didn't possibly

mean it like that,

you know what I mean?

You could've possibly

meant it innocently,

but that innocent word

could land you in prison

ten years.

My dear Muslim brothers,

there is a war taking place!

Mohammed's self-censorship

doesn't prevent him

from promoting views

sympathetic to ISIS

outside Regents Park Mosque,

a place opposed

to these demonstrations and

keen to distance themselves.

If you don't like

what I am saying,

then you disagree with Allah

and his messenger.

As Muslims worship

inside the mosque

Mohammed is outside

denouncing democracy

and the UK government.

The shariah is coming

to the UK.

This black flag you see here

one day is gonna be

on 10 Downing Street.

As Muslims leave the mosque

it's clear

he's not getting much support.

Instead they strongly disagree.

We're going to arrest

David Cameron.

We're going to arrest

George Osborne.

We're gonna arrest

every single member

of the Conservative Party

and put him on trial

for the crimes against Muslims!

Roberts] Mohammed won't worship

in the mosque today.

Instead he leads his group

for a prayer session

in Regent's Park.

Everyone got carpets? Guys,

just tell me the Qibla please.

Come on,

somebody tell me the Qibla.

- Anyone got a smart phone?

- Sort out the Qibla.

He's just gonna find out

the direction for prayer.

This way. lads, lads, lads!

Come here a bit, come here.

The group display

the black flag of Islam,

a symbol associated

with Islamic armies

for the past 1,200 years,

but one that's regularly

adopted by extremists,

including ISIS.

I can't help but think

that he's being

actively provocative.

Allah hu Akbar.

The real life is the life

of the akhirah,

not this life.

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