The Rise and Rise of Bitcoin Page #9
of bitcoin's price
out of the equation
for merchants
by immediately converting
bitcoins to dollars
at the time of sale.
So right now we have
it set to 100% dollars,
so anybody that
pays here with bitcoin,
they'll deposit the money
into your bank account
the very next day
with only a 1% fee.
And I guarantee you
over the next couple of weeks
you'll have
lots of computer nerds
that love bitcoins
will be coming in here
specifically to shop
at your supermarket,
so that they can pay
with bitcoin.
The credit card companies,
just for processing the payment,
they take anywhere from...
1.5% to over 3%
and then on certain cards
there's even
a per-transaction fee,
like 20 per transaction
plus the percentage
of the transaction.
...$11,000, $12,000 a month
on the average that they just
take right out of our account.
I honestly think that
there's a really good chance
that bitcoins will be
more than $1,000
by the end of the year,
because everybody who hears about...
"wait, I can send money
to and from anyone I want?"
It's impossible for anyone
to freeze your account,
it's impossible for anyone to block you
from sending or receiving these bitcoins.
...Euros,
so you can see
all these different currency
exchanges around the world
that exchange
to and from bitcoins.
You can see there's maybe between
50 and 100 exchanges now.
When I first heard about bitcoin and
started telling everybody about it,
if you looked at that same page,
there were less than 10.
And there's no central office that
they could raid or anything like that?
There's no central...
it's amazing.
There's no central office,
there's no central place
they could go to
and say,
"take Steve's bitcoins,"
or, "give Steve's bitcoins to Kevin."
Do this or do that.
So who's the owner
of bitcoins?
- Everybody that owns bitcoins?
- Yeah yeah.
Just like who's the owner of gold?
It's whoever owns some gold.
Short of shutting down
the entire Internet
in the entire world,
there's no way to stop bitcoin.
And hit "request payment."
And that's the q.R. Code
for your bitcoin address.
So I'm gonna scan that...
So now I have your bitcoin
address on my phone.
I think this is $2,
so I'm going
to send you $2
worth of bitcoins.
There it is.
You just received that many bitcoins
from me,
directly with no fee
and if you hit
the little green square
it'll show you the equivalent
amount in U.S. dollars.
So you just received
$2 worth of bitcoins
directly from my phone
to your phone.
And you can send money just like
that anywhere in the world.
You could've told me
your bitcoin address
by email or posted
on Facebook
or Twitter or anywhere.
So I could print this
and have it at the register.
Yeah. Yup, and you can
check right on your phone
any time that you
received the payment.
- ( LAUGHS )
- Okay. Thank you, Steve.
- STEVE:
All right. Thanks.- Thank you for the tea.
( CHATTING )
DANIEL:
One of the neweststandouts in the bitcoin space
is a San Francisco company
named coinbase.
They operate
a digital wallet service
that makes it simple to buy,
use and accept bitcoin.
BRIAN ARMSTRONG:
I would not be surprised at all
if Google, square, PayPal...
everybody...
in one or two years.
By then we need to have
50 million wallets.
If we can make this
easy to use,
it's gonna be huge.
FRED EHRSAM:
My involvement inbitcoin is not politically motivated.
- Yeah, dude. - EHRSAM: People are
realizing large capital gains.
When professional
investors enter the realm,
the stakes
definitely change.
We raised $5 million
from union square ventures.
Fred Wilson led
the round there.
I think bitcoin is still
actually a little bit
under the radar.
I think it's moved past the
stage where people dismiss it,
but I don't think
that it's totally
gone mainstream either.
I think we're in that
middle stage right now.
DANIEL:
At the end of the conference,
jered from tradehill
threw a party
to celebrate
how far things had come.
- You guys are hot right now.
- ( CHATTERING )
- Yup.
- Congratulations on the raise.
- Thank you.
- It's good money, man.
- Swell do.
- Yeah.
I mean... - hopefully it's an
advancement for the community.
I am completely
pro-compliance.
I think if you don't want
to attach your identity to this,
- just can't work with you.
- Yeah, so I thought I just need to...
I mean the libertarian side of me is like,
"ehh. Yeah, whatever,"
but like,
from a business perspective,
if people don't play
by the rules,
- you're not gonna last.
- Yeah, I completely agree.
- You're gonna just shut down or you're
gonna go to jail. - Yeah.
DANIEL:
Noticeably absent from the conference
were representatives
of bitcoin's
biggest exchange, mt. Gox.
Just days earlier the
department of homeland security
seized more than $5 million
from their U.S. accounts.
The seizure warrant stated
that mt. Gox had failed
to register
as a money transmitter,
putting them in violation
of the new fincen guidelines.
( PEOPLE CHATTERING )
I'm traveling to Tokyo
to meet mark karpeles,
mt. Gox's reclusive c.E.O.
No bitcoins on here.
Not yet.
That will make this
completely unnecessary.
But for now it seems
kind of primitive
that we're exchanging
paper for paper.
- ( CLICKING )
- ( COINS CLINKING )
- NICK:
And losing.- And losing value.
Someone's taking a cut.
Someone's taking a little percent.
Mark and his
business partner gonzague
are French but they operate
mt. Gox from offices in Japan.
Originally mt. Gox was
an exchange for trading cards
used in a game called
"magic:
The gathering."M.T.G.O.X. Stood for
"magic:
The gatheringonline exchange."
In 2011
mark's company tibanne
bought mt. Gox,
and his focus has been bitcoin ever since.
One of the conditions
of my visit
is to refrain
from any discussion
about the d.H.S. Seizure,
due to the ongoing
investigation.
We've arrived at mt. Gox.
This is
mt. Gox right here.
There's no big sign
or anything, no... no...
it doesn't look like a crazy
commercial establishment.
Despite
their legal problems
mt. Gox still handles more
volume than any other exchange
and is processing around
$6 million worth
We had, last year,
an average of 10,000 new customers a month.
January, it was 20,000.
Then 30,000, 60,000,
150,000.
With what's going on,
we go down,
but we are reaching
100,000 new customers
- for may.
- That's amazing.
- In a month?
- In a month.
- Wow.
- So it was like this...
Zip, bup!
But still,
after what happened
I thought that a lot
of people will go away
or don't create
a new account.
But still,
100,000 new customers
it's... wow.
And here we've got
the office.
( LAUGHS )
DANIEL:
Mt. Gox employs 18 people
not only is mark the c.E.O.,
he's also the c.F.O.,
the lead developer
and performs all technical operations
to keep the exchange running.
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