The U.S. vs John Lennon Page #9
I'd like to be here.
I've got a lot of friends here,
and this is where
I want to be, you know?
Statue of Liberty...
Welcome.
I even brought my own cash.
He was under an order
to leave the country
within 60 days
for pretty much all of 1972
and on into 1973.
Our reaction to the government's action
taken last week
I believe has been very, very succinctly
put by The Wall Street Journal
in an editorial
of March 28, 1973.
It states, "We find it more than
a little hard to believe
"that authorities
could find no legal way
"to resolve what is, after all,
"a highly unusual
set of circumstances.
"Further, we submit if the law does not
reflect the human equities,
it is a law
that needs to be changed."
Yes, the case was very
difficult at that point,
and what he did was to just
keep on extending our stay,
which I thought
was very wise,
a very wise tactic.
I don't understand law,
as it were,
because it is finite.
And I don't really go,
sort of...
I can't express... Dig that scene,
you know?
I don't know.
It seems just like to me
as somebody once said,
"Kafka-esque."
It's just bureaucracy,
and they get going
and then what can they do?
They don't know
where to turn, I suppose.
The game's started,
and we have to play it out.
When I talked to Jerry Rubin
and Abbie Hoffman
about this period,
they told me they wanted
to try something new,
something they thought would maybe be
more effective in stopping the war.
Jerry Rubin was talking about
what he called
a political Woodstock
that they would hold outside
the Republican National Convention.
They really tried
to make us go to Miami,
and we kept saying
we're not gonna do it,
but Jerry, for political reasons,
just announced that we're
gonna be there.
They think we're going
to San Diego or Miami.
We've never said we're going.
We ain't going.
They'll be no big jam
with us and Dylan
because there's
too much going on.
We never said we were going.
That's it.
By then John and I realized
that it would have been
very, very dangerous for us.
We had a very distinct,
clear feeling
that if we had gone
to the Republican convention,
we would have been
in danger of our lives.
You know, he said,
"The only thing I ever really wanted
to do in my life
was to play in
a rock and roll band."
And then he said,
"I can't let them
take that away from me."
The very core of his existence
was threatened
by what they were trying
to do to him.
It is now clear that Richard Nixon
is the winner of this election.
That's what our trend
now indicates,
the President reelected
by a landslide.
The fact that McGovern lost,
the fact that Nixon
was reelected again
and all that really upset us,
because in the big picture
the United States...
the policy of the United States
would affect the whole world.
And from that big picture,
we were very depressed.
Once Nixon is reelected,
the FBI loses interest
in Lennon,
says, "We're closing our file."
The immigration service,
though, is a good bureaucracy.
When they're given a job,
they do their job.
And they kept doing their job.
They kept doing it to Lennon
for another year and a half,
two years.
The situation is
I'm still appealing.
Every now and then they'll say,
"You got 30 days to get out,"
and then my lawyer will appeal
and we'll go up to another court
or something like that.
It will just go on forever.
Terry Southern put it well.
He says it keeps
the conservatives happy
that they're doing something about me
and what I represent.
And it keeps the liberals happy
because I haven't
actually been thrown out.
So everybody's happy.
The easy thing to do
would have been
just slink away
and go back to England,
but he chose to stand
on his rights
and I'm glad that he did.
Lennon and his legal team
went on the offensive
and filed a couple
of very interesting lawsuits.
I sued the Attorney General,
Mitchell,
and a whole slew of other people
who I claimed were
involved in a conspiracy
to deny John and Yoko's case
and get them out of
the United States improperly.
What do you think your chances are
of remaining in this country?
- 99-1.
- For or against?
- For.
- Why is that?
Because I'm overconfident,
as usual.
We ultimately were able to examine
the records in the case.
And lo and behold, deep
in John's immigration file,
which was a high security file,
were documents reaching all the way
up to President Nixon
showing improper interference
in an immigration case
and prejudgment.
Probably the most important documents
are reports addressed
to the White House
signed by J. Edgar Hoover.
These were not sent
directly to Richard Nixon.
They're addressed
to H.R. Haldeman,
Assistant to the President.
Now, Haldeman was the most important
person in the White House
if you wanted to get to Nixon.
So when Hoover sends something
to Haldeman saying,
"Here's our report on our progress
in trying to kick Lennon
out of the country,"
the reason that he's doing that
is that Nixon wants to know.
I would not say that it was
integral to the politics
of the Nixon administration
to keep John Lennon from having
residence in this country.
I think it was of a piece
with the general nastiness
of the Nixon administration.
I had no prior knowledge
of the Watergate break-in.
You had the President
of the United States, Richard Nixon,
who was running
a rogue presidency,
a criminal presidency.
We do know, from Mr. Nixon's
long statement of May the 22nd
that he did approve much earlier
a program of wiretapping
and even burglary
in national security matters.
Did other presidents
break the law,
bend the law occasionally?
I'm sure they did.
Was there wholesale criminality
in any other presidency
in our history?
No.
For God sakes,
they committed a burglary,
and then they destroyed
the government of the United States,
covering it up.
That is the context in which you have
to determine and judge
and value what they did
to John Lennon.
The case against
John Lennon by the FBI
and the lmmigration
and Naturalization Service
and by President Nixon
and all his people
was that John Lennon
was disloyal
to the United States of America
and what it stood for.
The real disloyalty was Nixon's,
Hoover's, the INS,
and all the people
who were implicated
in the FBI and the INS
and wherever else,
because their perversion,
distortion of the Constitution,
their violation
of the basic principles,
that was the greatest
disloyalty to this country.
Therefore, I shall
resign the Presidency
effective at noon tomorrow.
Vice President Ford will
be sworn in as President
at that hour in this office.
Lennon was somebody
who was a born enemy
of those who governed
the United States.
He was everything they hated.
So I just say that he represented life,
and is admirable.
And Mr. Nixon...
and Mr. Bush represent death,
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