Tickled Page #6

I mean... like,

you know, stolen identity.

Stolen a social security number

of a dead woman,

of two dead people, right?

It said, "David d'amato,

39, of garden city,

plead guilty

for two federal counts of

computer fraud and abuse."

Nothing about the tickling,

nothing about the boys, nothing

about the identity theft.

Zero. Nothing.

David:
Once Fordham became

aware of d'amato's convictions,

his admission was revoked.

No longer able to study law,

d'amato finished

his sentence in prison.

But I've realized that

didn't stop the tickling.

David:
So, this is 2002. So this

is writing to David starr,

who would shoot

these boys tickling

and then send the videos...

To Terri. That was a, that's--

because she,

what she would have is...

- Do you want your glasses?

- Back in the early days...

Yeah. Back in the early days...

Terri would have friends

tickle them and send them the...

They were amateur tapes.

- These are now professional?

- Well, this is...

- Look at the date on it.

- '02?

Look at the date.

- Is the "t" Terri?

- Yeah, it's Terri writing.

So that was during, um,

lock-up time.

Oh, in jail. I get it.

"David, a few other things.

Email... explain my illness."

Oh. "Tell him I'll pay

everything owed

as soon as the mono is better."

Oh. "Get headshots."

My god! Oh, my god!

"I won't be online for a while

as I am very sick." Oh.

- Couldn't stop.

- No. No.

David:
It seems that

since the mid-'90s,

David d'amato has never

stopped finding elaborate ways

to get young men

to tickle each other.

His persona of Terri tickle

seems to have dropped off the

radar around 2006.

A while later, Jane o'brien

arrived on the scene.

We've posted

this theory online,

and David d'amato is not happy.

He's hired not one, but two

private investigators,

one in New Zealand

and one in New York.

The message is clear. They tell

us to stop what we're doing

and that d'amato has nothing

to do with Jane o'brien media.

On top of that,

David d'amato has also hired

a New Zealand lawyer.

He's demanding

an apology and retraction

or else he'll see us

in a New Zealand court.

We're now being attacked

by Jane o'brien's lawyers

on one side

and David d'amato's

on the other,

both insisting they have

nothing to do with each other.

Once again, we're way

out of our depth.

Things get even more surreal

with a phone call

from Michigan,

where there's a very different

tickling operation

also being run by Jane.

Jordan:

David:
So, like,

crime is pretty high--

- Jordan:
Yeah--

- ...Here, right?

Murder, robberies, um, rape,

I mean, theft.

It's all up there,

especially for being as small,

um, as what it is.

We've made it now, uh,

on to the top 100 most dangerous

cities in the United States.

David:

Do you think on some level

Jane kind of directed things

here because it is a poor area?

Yeah, you know,

the poverty level, you know,

- is easy to target, you know.

- Mm.

Thousands of dollars

in kids' hands is...

That's a,

that's a big, big deal.

David:
Jane has taken a liking

to one of muskegon's main

sports, mixed martial arts.

A group of young, athletic men

desperate for extra money.

Jordan:
That's what

she was trying to do,

is break into the mma world.

Because it's not illegal

to tickle somebody

to get out of a submission

in mixed martial arts.

Like, she was trying

to pitch that

because she, like,

looked it up in all the rules

and everything.

But if you tickle a guy in the

middle of that ring

to get out of a submission,

you might step out of the cage

and get punched in the face.

Like, never in a million years

out of all my fights

would I ever try to

tickle somebody

to get out of a submission.

F***, no!

David:
As an ex-fighter,

Jordan was paid to recruit

tickling talent in the town.

He's the only one in muskegon

prepared to appear on camera.

She offered my one buddy a

2014 Chevy cruze and $30,000.

- What? What for? To tickle?

- Yeah.

Just 'cause, like,

she liked him.

Yeah, right. She...

He was a favorite.

- Like, yeah.

- Yeah.

Asians and redheads

are what they call premiums.

If you get those, like,

she gives you bonuses.

I'm Jordan schillaci,

and this is cet.

Uh, we're gonna be

having a discussion,

more of a debate today about

whether tickling

is effective in

a combat situation.

We ended up setting up

a tickle cell. Like,

where you get guys to come in,

"we'll pay you and you

pay them to audition."

No!

So we'd choose a hotel,

nothing fancy,

and, uh, the guys would come

in and hang out, you know,

smoke, drink, eat pizza,

f***in', and we'd hurry up

and run through, you know,

five, six, seven guys.

So you're... you were looking

after the tickle cell in

muskegon?

Yeah, they have them set up

all over the us.

Ohio, Michigan,

Florida, New York.

- I mean, they're everywhere.

- Right.

- And they're all for Jane?

- Yeah.

F***in' hell.

Jordan:
Well, that's where

a lot of people started

getting really

really upset, man.

Because all of sudden

these videos

that are supposed to be

just auditions were on YouTube,

vimeo, and every other

site you could imagine.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Nobody was okay with that.

One of the guys, Brodie,

like, his family was very upset

with him. It was all over.

Like, people just picked on him

and picked on him.

You know, he was underage,

still in school.

And it wasn't supposed

to go out on the Internet.

It wasn't supposed to be put up,

and, uh,

you know,

that just kind of sucked.

Because, like I said,

it took Brodie...

It hit one of the hardest.

Like, this whole situation

and then being underage

and his parents.

Who do you have to turn to?

Who are you going to attack?

No... Jane o'brien's a ghost.

Nobody knows who it is.

Jordan:
Cody-bear, no.

This is Colton,

this is my nephew.

- David:
Hey, man.

- Colton, how old are you?

How old are you?

- Three.

- You're three?

You're three? All right.

- I'm David.

- I'm Phil. How are you doing?

It's nice to meet you, sir.

I was really, really reluctant

when Jordan

started talking about this.

And he's like, "this lady seems

straight and legit, mom."

I'm like, you know,

"these... these boys are young."

It's easy to believe,

but when you're an old mom,

you're a little more leery

for the boys, and,

I was very leery

right from get-go

that the boys were

gonna get into trouble

and this was not legit.

Jordan:
She has all the money in

the world, it seems like,

whoever it is,

to be able to do this.

But they're waiting for

that day that you rely

on that as a sole income.

That was her big,

I think, power trip.

She waited until a bunch of

us relied on that income

because that was our

only source of income.

We'd been doing it for so long,

we didn't think...

She waited until she had

complete control,

basically, over your situation,

and that's when she

wanted to yank that rug

right out from under you.

David:
David d'amato. Have you

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