Trumped: Inside the Greatest Political Upset of All Time Page #6

I don't think

you've ever seen it

at a presidential campaign

rally.

And it happens at almost

every Trump event.

It's disturbing and weird.

[Halperin] His attitude

and the campaign's attitude

is way too cavalier about it.

[woman] ...talked directly

to his supporters.

Uh, so we're gonna find out

from Dr. Carson

why he specifically

wanted to endorse Donald Trump.

We did ask about...

[Carson]

Uh, you know, the media,

they're very skillful at

painting people certain ways.

And it may not be

who that person is at all.

They're two different

Donald Trumps.

There's the one

you see on the stage,

and there's the one

who's very cerebral,

sits there, and considers

things very carefully.

You can have a very good

conversation with him.

And that's the Donald Trump

that you're gonna

start seeing more and more of.

[camera shutters clicking]

[Trump] Okay. Yes?

No, it's-it's-it's politics.

And it's fact.

Let-let me just tell you.

We've had some violent

people as protesters.

You know, they're not just

people saying, "Oh..."

These are people that punch.

And-and the particular one

when I said,

"I'd like to bang him,"

he was swinging;

he was hitting people;

and the audience hit back.

And that's what we need

a little bit more of.

[camera shutters clicking]

All right, a couple of more

and we'll get out of here.

[reporters all talking at once]

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[indistinct commotion]

[together] It is our duty

to fight for our freedom!

Get 'em out.

Troublemakers.

Get 'em out of here.

Young, spoiled kids.

[men chanting]

Stop the hate!

Stop the hate!

[indistinct commotion]

tense music

[crowd chanting]

We gonna be all right!

We gonna be all right!

[man] There are hundreds,

maybe even thousands

of protesters on hand.

[crowd chanting] We want Trump!

We want Trump! We want Trump!

[crowd chanting]

We gonna be all right!

We gonna be all right!

[man] The security

does not have a handle

on the situation here.

[crowd chanting]

We gonna be all right!

We gonna be all right!

Tonight's rally will be

postponed until another day.

[crowd cheering]

Thank you very much

for your attendance.

Please go in peace.

[crowd chanting] We stopped

Trump! We stopped Trump!

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man] This is becoming violent.

There is pushing

and shoving going on

inside this arena.

It is total chaos.

[helicopter rotors whirring]

[man] Donald Trump joins me.

I'm now live on the phone.

Mr. Trump, do you believe

that you have done anything

to create a tone

where this kind of violence

would be encouraged?

[man] Do you re--

you regret saying

any of those things

about punching protesters,

sending them out on stretchers?

[indistinct commotion]

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[crowd cheering]

Donald Trump has created

a toxic environment.

[crowd chanting]

[Sanders] Donald Trump

has got to be loud and clear

and tell his supporters

that violence at rallies

is not what America is about

and to end it.

[crowd chanting]

[Cruz] And, you know, as we

campaign, we have protesters.

But unlike Donald Trump,

I don't ask people

in the audience

to punch them in the face.

Trump] I will call up Carrier,

he president.

'Cause I have to do it myself.

I know it's not--

[crowd commotion]

[crowd chanting]

Trump! Trump! Trump!

And to think I had

such an easy life.

What do I need this for, right?

[crowd chanting]

USA! USA! USA! USA!

[Rubio] Realize that,

win or lose,

there are people out there

that see what I'm doing

and follow it as a role model.

And I can't imagine an election

more consequential

than this one.

We're not just choosing

what political party wins.

We're choosing

what it means to be

a conservative

in the 21st century.

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Why wouldn't you dedicate

yourself to public service?

[Trump]

Somebody with strong views

and somebody

with the kind of views

that are maybe

a little bit unpopular--

which may be right

but may be unpopular--

wouldn't necessarily

have a chance

of getting elected

against somebody with

no great brain

but a big smile.

And that's a sad commentary

for the political process.

[King] Donald Trump

is sounding more like

a politician these days

than America's most

grandiose and controversial

builder.

They can presume

whatever they want.

I have no intention

of running for president,

but I'd like the point

to get across

that we have a great country,

but it's not gonna be

great for long

if we're gonna continue

to lose $200 billion a year.

You're gonna get

into the early '90s,

1990, 1991, and

the whole thing's gonna blow.

[Stone] Here's

the fundamental question.

Is the pop culture

in this country

more influential now

than its institutions?

brooding music

Voters are fed up

with both parties.

They're looking

for new choices.

And if the American people

are presented

a viable, different choice,

they may just take it.

[dogs howling]

[Halperin] Mr. Stone?

Gentlemen, how are you?

Good to see you, sir.

- Nice to see you.

- This is an incredible place.

- Come on in.

- Let's go in.

- [Halperin] And what is this?

- [Stone] This is the bunker.

- [Halperin] The bunker.

- [Heilemann] The bunker.

[Stone] This is the--

this is the Stone Zone.

Uh...

oh, my God.

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[Halperin] Roger Stone

is an American original.

In some ways,

larger than life.

[Heilemann] Larger than life

and darker than night.

[Stone] Nixon.

[Heilemann]

Seventy-two campaign.

You were involved

in that campaign.

[Stone] Yes, I was

the youngest member

of The Committee to Re-Elect

the President staff.

Right,

and-and, famously,

you were engaged

in various dirty tricks

or what people would call

dirty tricks--

Allegedly.

Alleg-allegedly.

[Halperin]

Roger was, for decades,

the equivalent of Karl Rove

to Donald Trump.

Trump brought in

Corey Lewandowski.

Corey and Roger clashed.

And...

[Heilemann] Roger was exiled.

[Halperin] Roger was exiled.

[Halperin] May I pick this up?

Is that all right?

[Stone] Yes, you certainly may.

[Halperin] Um, it says,

"'Try me' feature on back."

[Heilemann] Probably

on the back of the doll.

[doll] I have no choice

but to tell you, you're fired.

[Stone] The next president

of the United States.

[doll] You're fired.

Is it the case now that you're--

you are not speaking to him?

- No, we speak occasionally.

- [Halperin] You do.

[Heilemann] When you say

"occasionally," you mean

you speak to him, like,

with what frequency?

- I'm curious, like daily?

- We're--we're on--

- We're on friendly terms.

- Hourly?

From time to time.

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[Heilemann] You'd ac--accept

the notion of politics

as basically like

a fight for survival, right?

[Stone]

It's a context, but yes.

[Heilemann]

Right, right, right.

- Kill or be killed.

- Yes.

And Trump's a brawler.

I mean, there's nothing

off-limits.

There'll be no Marquess

de Queensberry rules here.

He had an incredible

ability to,

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