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they spread in the crowd and began provoking the police with insults, stones and torches

robert perry:
the right sector in ukraine

represents the far-right ukrainian population

they often had their militias that were coming to maidan

some squads were shipped into kiev as muscle for the demonstrations

the demonstrations ran from being peaceful

to being increasingly violent

narrator:
the first step in any investigation

is to to find the motive

it is now known that sergei liovochkin

has the highest favor among his us friends

outraged about what was reported on the news

people came out the next day

to express their disturbance by the actions of police

stone:
the violence started to take off when?

yanukovich:
unlawful actions practically began on december of 2013

the events taking place at that time in kiev were very radical

neo-nazi organizations took part in them

young men that were armed with different improvised weapons

such as iron bars, baseball bats and even vehicles were used

like tractors, they were using tractors to attack the police officers

that were defending the government institutions and the president's administration building

how could a president come out to talk to such an uncontrollable crowd?

whom to talk to?

the technologies used at that time, they were planned beforehand

narrator:
as veiled and masked as the color revolutions may be

an attentive viewer can see a subtle pattern revealing their true nature

to make crowds act like one group you have to unite them on the subconscious level

masterminds of the color revolutions know that well and mastered this art

symbolism is one of the most powerful tools to achieve this goal

revolutionary political organizations

with surprisingly similar names and even more similar symbols

appear in those countries that are soon to be hit by revolutions

they are often described as being aware and active

but actually trained and radical

they are the ones who take the first shot, literally

to convert protests into outrage

their fingerprints can be found everywhere on the map of color revolutions

using all the experience of past generations

simple but effective tools

like chanting, do a great job

crowd:
together we are strong

narrator:
well know for exciting the crowd

and creating a group identity

they depersonalize the individuals

and create a group thats easily manipulated

crowd:
if you're not hopping then you're russian

man on stage:
thank you friends hail to ukraine

crowd:
hail to the heroes

zaharchenko:
of course it couldn't be done without money

so many ngo's

grants given to ukraine

and it's not a secret

narrator:
incidentally, one of such organizations

hromadske tv received generous donations

from the dutch and us embassies

as well as the renaissance foundation founded by george soros

george soros:
i've set up a foundation in ukraine

before ukraine even became independent from russia

and the foundation has been functioning ever since

it played a significant role in the ukrainian events now

narrator:
i like criticism

but it must be my way

mark twain

stone:
did you see any evidence that the us is involved?

did you feel the presence of the us?

yanukovich:
the us officials were often guests

there were congressmen

victoria nuland came very often

we were discussing with her

but after those discussions she was going to maidan

to support the protesters and accuse the police of using force

actually we saw all of those messages on maidan

chris murphy:
we will come here, at this square

to celebrate with you and ukraine

that stands together with the eu and us

perry:
well members of congress were visiting ukraine

one of the most known was senator john mccain

so the high us official

the person who had run for president

was talking to the people

that were acting against their democratically elected government

saying that the us is with them

mccain:
i'm senator john mccain and it's always a pleasure to be back in ukraine

perry:
senator mccain was giving people the feeling

that they are being supported by the most powerful country on earth

mccain:
this is not about the future you want for your country

this is about the future you deserve

yanukovich:
a lot of delegates were coming

i was saying that one shouldn't

first of all, say what isn't true

one shouldn't take the side of the protesters

and protect their rights and making the conflict worse with it

when the protesters capture the government institutions

tell me is it acceptable in any other country

for instance if an ambassador of ukraine

went to see the protesters in ferguson

and give out cookies or pies and accuse the police of the us

i consider this unacceptable in any country of the eu

so why then ukraine was treated that way?

stone:
who was your highest level contact at that time?

yanukovich:
i was constantly in contact with mr biden

i had regular phone talks with him

but the thing is that mr biden was saying one thing

and what was happening in ukraine was completely another

stone:
and the us ambassador?

yanukovich:
the us ambassador in ukraine

was constantly receiving the maidan delegates in his embassy

we knew it very well

we were tracking this

and we had the impression that there was

a headquarters of this process inside of the us embassy

perry:
in early february of 2014

as the maidan crisis became more violent

there was a phone call that was intercepted between

the assistant secretary of state in europe victoria nuland

and the us ambassador in ukraine geoffrey pyatt

reporter:
one should question the credibility of ukrainians

after a private chat of the top us ambassador

was leaked online

nuland:
i think yats is the guy who's got the economic experience

the governing experience

he's the what he needs is klitsch and tyahnybok on the outside

i just think klitsch going in

he's going to be at that level working for yatseniuk

it's just not going to work

pyatt:
yeah, no, i think that's right. ok

good, do you want us to set up a call with him as the next step?

nuland:
sullivan's come back to me

vfr [direct to me] saying you need biden

and i said probably tomorrow

for an atta-boy and to get the details to stick

so biden's willing

perry:
so you had this remarkable phone call

where two high officials in the us government

are openly talking about coup

and about how they're planning to dysfunction the government of ukraine

nuland:
f*** the eu

pyatt:
no, exactly

perry:
i'm not saying the whole us government is like this

there is a division

but for neocons it is very important to change the dynamics in the eastern europe

they are very smart

the neocons are highly skilled in propaganda

they know well all of the push points of the american people

they had this experience when they were heating things up around central america in 1980s

reporter:
the sandinista ground forces are now armed with Russian artillery

perry:
they've been applying the same strategies ever since

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