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south, and north somewhat.
- Well, let's find them, Rummy.
- Indeed.
We know this guy Saddam's
hiding stuff.
We know the U.N.'s
one big international mosh pit.
We got a lot of maybes, probablys
and buts from George...
...which John Q. Public
ain't gonna buy.
We can present better,
but we don't have nukes.
What we have is a slam-dunk
on the others.
Slam-dunk?
What have you been drinking,
Brother George?
What you need
is to bring in some lawyers...
...who can argue cases
with juries to help.
These snapshots
and Iraqi gobbledygook...
...on tape is just another
bunch of bullshit.
Sir, you know,
whatever we come up with...
...the United Nations is gonna want
more time and another resolution.
The old Europe.
Your father went to the U.N.,
Mr. President...
...and it took him six months, as I
remember, but he got his resolution.
And he got Congress too.
My gosh, Colin, you're the finest
military man in this room...
...we all know that.
But don't you think the Gulf War
days are long gone?
Do we really need six months
and half a million men...
...to knock off a tin-pot dictator
with a ragtag army?
You're right, Don,
I am a military man.
And you
more than anyone in this room...
...learned the lessons of Vietnam.
Now, I think we're all adults
in this room...
...and we recognize that 9l11,
no matter how horrific it was...
...and it was...
...was also an opportunity this time
for us to get it right.
Drain the swamp.
Sweep up all the bad guys
in one big move.
Things related and not.
Otherwise, sir, they will be back.
I thought we just did that
in Afghanistan.
We keep the focus
on sweeping up Bin Laden.
Goodness gracious, if you want
to call Afghanistan a war, Colin.
You know there were no real targets
to bomb there.
- It was an exercise.
- In any case...
...if we don't act,
all of us will be out of here in 2004.
And that's the bottom line.
So this is all about politics, Karl?
I'm confused
as to what you're doing in this room.
Okay, let's stay on message here.
Look, Genius Boy is just here
to listen, not talk.
You see, sir...
...what I'm pressing for here...
...is why?
Why are we doing this?
Why Iraq?
- Why now?
- We discussed that already, Colin.
We had America
protected September 11 th.
That is, if people had been
doing their jobs right.
But we blew it.
And now instead of taking down
these 10,000 al Qaeda lunatics...
...in the mountains
with special operations...
...we're way outside of the box
on this thing.
Why aren't we trusting the system?
Why have we veered off
to this place...
...where we accept without debate
that a preemptive strike on Iraq...
...can defeat terrorism
better than police action...
...or intel agencies
that share information?
I just don't get it, Mr. President,
I don't. Because I am a soldier.
And I'd be mighty sure before
I put young American lives at risk.
- Here we are...
- Okay, Secretary Powell, come on.
Let me finish.
Here we are...
...changing the whole way
we do business...
...in response to a small but dedicated
enemy hiding out in caves and jungles.
- Are we losing our perspective here?
- We changed our perspective.
The Trade Center was bombed in '93.
We had a huge attack
on Oklahoma in '95.
And those who did it
are in jail or dead.
Big difference.
Oklahoma terrorists
didn't have anthrax or nukes.
Colin...
...I swear, you're beginning
to sound like Neville Chamberlain.
Oh, don't patronize me,
Mr. Five Deferments.
You save that for speeches
to veterans. Neville Chamberlain.
You think, really...
You think,
with all your diplomatic bullshit...
...that you can appease Islamic
fascists, who are as nuts as Hitler.
You wanna know what I see,
Mr. President?
I see a world
where in about 25 years...
...America's reserves are gone.
Done.
Demand is up...
...30, 40 percent.
And we have two oceans
blocking us from the world reserves.
You think we're gonna
have allies then?
We're at 5 percent
of the world's population.
We use 25 percent of its energy.
are gonna help us out...
...when they need
those resources themselves?
Eighty percent of the world's
future energy reserves...
...are right here in Eurasia,
where the prize ultimately lies.
Oil, gas, water.
Iraq alone,
...60 of 80 oil fields
are still undeveloped.
And probably another 100 billion
gallons in their western desert.
- They are floating in a sea of oil.
- We have bases...
...in more than 120 countries
all over the world.
If we include Iraq,
look what happens.
We are at the fertile
choke point of civilization.
The Tigris-Euphrates,
the biblical cradle.
We drain this swamp, like Don says.
We rebuild it.
We develop its resources
to the maximum.
They own it, we run it.
Pipelines, sea lanes, their resources
finance the reconstruction.
A nexus of power that won't be broken
in our lifetime.
If we stick to the plan.
So, what is our real exit strategy
on Iraq, Dick?
There is no exit.
We stay.
Spoken like a true oilman.
You were part of the plan, Colin,
back in the '90s.
weaponry, space, cyber, electronic.
You agreed
...another military-economic rival
- I don't understand...
...on terrorists is like trying to hit
an ant with an elephant gun.
We invoke preemption...
Preventive war, you call it.
The right to use nukes
whenever we see fit.
- and I guarantee you, Paul,
we will be in a forever war everywhere.
Three, four wars at a time.
That's not new world order,
that's a world gone mad.
There's got to be some
global cooperation here.
No one's against cooperation,
Colin, you know that.
- As long as we're calling the shots.
- Which gets us back to reality.
Lest we forget...
...where do you see
a lack of American presence?
Right in the heart of it all.
What's missing?
Iran.
The mother lode.
Third largest oil reserve in the world.
Forty percent of the world's oil...
the Strait of Hormuz.
Control Iran, control Eurasia,
control the world.
Empire.
Real empire.
Nobody will f*** with us again.
It's big, Vice.
You know, big thoughts.
But you go out here and you
scare people when you talk like that.
The working Joe's
We're talking 9l11 terrorists...
...WMDs.
We're talking
freedom and democracy.
We're talking Axis of Evil.
Sir...
...you have the touch, not I.
You know,
when I was coming up...
...it was a dangerous world.
But we knew exactly
who the "they" were.
We knew it was us versus them,
and it was clear who "them" was.
Today...
...we're not so sure who the "they" are,
but we know they're there.
Now, I'm not gonna
negotiate with myself.
I'm a gut player, always have been.
And I am just so bone-tired
of this Saddam.
He's always
misunderestimated me.
I don't want our soldiers
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