Waste Land
He is, without a doubt,
one of the greatest
contemporary artists alive today.
And he gives life to garbage.
And he has attracted huge crowds
to his exhibitions.
Vik Muniz, come on down!
When I said he's one of
I'm not exaggerating.
I really believe that,
and everyone agrees.
There is just no doubt about it.
Can you tell us how you came
to use materials from the garbage?
Once I was driving in Sao Paulo...
I see a fight.
I stop to break the fight apart.
When I am going
back to my car...
I got shot by one of the guys who
Thought was the guy fighting with him.
Sorry I have to do this.
Luckily he was very rich...
and he gave me some money.
And that's
why I bought the ticket...
to come to America in 1983...
and that's why
I am talking to you today.
Because I got shot in the leg.
Oh my God, this is so amazing!
I really feel weird.
This is very very strange.
I used to push these carts here.
Now, they have these things
for the carts.
In my time, they had no thing
which can return your cart.
One of my jobs was to clean up...
after the dumpster.
From the meat dumpsters.
I would spend the whole day...
shoveling
the worst possible matter...
organic matter left by the truck.
Sugar Children was probably
the most important work...
of my career.
I think this is the first
time that I addressed...
the fact of material
as something that exists...
in the world
with its own importance.
These are children from
the Caribbean island, of St. Kitts.
They are sons and daughters
of plantation workers.
I would imagine the progression from
these beautiful amazing children...
to a grown,
that would be just as happy...
because it was paradise.
But their parents were very sad,
tired, weary people...
who worked 16 hour
shifts in the sugar fields.
I kept thinking about what
was missing in the transition...
from a childhood like that
to being very sad grownups.
And it was sugar.
The sweetness was taken
from those children.
When I came back to New York
I started drawing their faces with sugar...
volumes with that.
It was quite beautiful.
I shot these with a camera.
People from the New York Times...
wrote a review about it and later,
invited me to be part
of the new photography show.
So it changed my career entirely...
the work that I did
with these children.
Right now,
I am this point in my career...
that I am trying to step
a little bit away...
from the realm of fine art.
Because I think
that it is a very exclusive...
very restrictive place to be.
What I really want
to do is to be able to change...
the lives of a group of people...
with the dame materials
that they deal with every day.
And not just any material.
The idea I have
for my next series...
is to work with garbage.
When you talk
about transformation...
this being the stuff of art...
transforming material and ideas...
I don't know.
This is the beginning of an idea...
I just have the material.
And I have to go after an image.
Hey Fabio.
So did you have a chance
to look at that garbage thing?
Yes...
check the link I just sent you.
On You Tube there is a video that was
shot at this place called Gramacho.
Gramacho Gardens
it's the biggest landfill in Rio.
They receive the trash
from all the Rio area.
What are the dangers
of working in a place like this?
First of all, the place
is surrounded by favelas...
owned by the drug traffic.
And I think the stability
of the people themselves...
they are all
excluded from society.
Some stay there overnight...
or the whole week.
It's gonna be hard.
So do you think it is too hard?
No, because it would be much harder
to think we are not able...
to change the life of these people.
And I think we are.
My experience with mixing art...
with social projects...
is that is the main thing...
if it is for two minutes...
away from where they are.
And showing them another world...
another place.
Even it's just a place from where
they can look at where they are...
You know it just
changes everything.
I want this to be
an experience of how art...
can change people...
but also...
Can it change people?
Can this be done?
And what would be
the effects of this?
This is where I am going to spend
the next two years of my life.
And your going to make
drawings out of the garbage?
And your going to employ
the people that live there?
And work there?
How is it going to be
if you work with them?
It is not exactly safe
to do what they do.
They don't question it,
because they feed from there.
Yeah, but we do.
It's hard to make those assumptions
We have to go there
and see what they really need.
And you are going
to create everything?
I want also...
the iconography to develop
from my interaction with them.
See what is important to them.
What would they like
to make an image big?
What would they like to show?
Maybe it will end up
just being portraits.
But do you think people
they are open to work like this?
I have no idea.
These are the roughest...
people you can think of,
all drug addicts.
It's like the end of the line.
Check out the geography
of this thing.
This is the end of the line...
This is where everything
that is not good goes.
Including the people.
We are working with the type
of individuals that...
are in Brazilian society,
not different than garbage itself.
The most poisonous thing in Brazilian
culture and society, is classicism.
It's horrible
how people really believe...
and I am talking
about educated people...
They really believe they
You see?
It's all recycling
industry around here.
People all dealing with garbage.
Every single lot
is filled with garbage.
And you see people
are carrying garbage?
It's like a garbage land.
People look at us in a funny way,
"What the hell are we doing here?"
I see the hill.
Oh sh*t.
Oh my God.
It's like a mountain.
Where are we exactly?
Right here.
Hi Lucio, I'm Vik.
Pleasure to meet you.
Hi, how are you doing?
What's really impressive...
is that it's the largest
landfill in the world.
Yes, it's the largest landfill in terms
of the volume of trash received daily.
The ground underneath here
is all soft.
The landfill is like a plate of jell-o.
If you keep adding to
it without careful balancing...
it will sink here or collapse there.
You can see what they're
recycling over there.
And it's separate there.
Cardboard, paper, plastics, glass,
metal - they collect everything.
It works like a stock exchange.
They collect whatever the market
demands at any given time.
So the recycling wholesalers
tell the pickers what they need...
and then that's what they collect.
Yes, that's right.
They sell the materials
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