We Steal Secrets: The Story of WikiLeaks Page #8
He was actually quite
tortured by this material
and with very few resources.
By himself, day and night,
he was consumed
with working out what to release
and what not to release.
WikiLeaks is a tiny organization
working on this huge scale.
It's going to make
some mistakes.
Is Spiegel "I-E"
or "E-l"?
MAN:
I-E.All right. F*** that end
of the press release.
DAVIS:
He was withoutany support structure,
and he was about to
do a press conference.
So, I'd say to him, "Julian,
you need someone there.
"I mean, someone's got to
write a press release
"or at least answer
the phone."
[INDISTINCT]
DAVIS:
So it was just in thecouple of days before that launch
that a couple of volunteer
students came in.
ASSANGE:
I'm going to go now,but I just want to give you
something to think about, which is,
we've got this press
conference on, tomorrow.
We're going to be
totally inundated.
Completely
totally inundated.
INTERVIEWER:
Let's talk aboutWikiLeaks as an organization.
Mmm-hmm. Is this Apple
or IBM, or is this...
[CHUCKLES] It's
a corner gas station,
with some extremely
bright attendants.
[LAUGHING]
it was true that he tried
to create an impression
that it was this very
large organization.
It was Julian Assange,
his $300 laptop,
10 SIM cards,
and a very cheap jacket
that he'd put on if he
had to do an interview.
[ALARM RINGING]
DAVIS:
He woke up late,of course.
I'm knocking on the door.
"Julian, come on, man."
He gets up.
Just his normal thing.
What's the time?
What's the time?
DAVIS:
Twenty-five to.I also need to prepare a little
list of things. All right.
[DAVIS SPEAKING]
I'll be two minutes.
How are you feeling?
Tired.
I haven't been to sleep.
But, good.
Fourteen pages in The
Guardian this morning.
"Massive leak of secret files
exposes true Afghan war."
We tell our sources
maximum political impact,
and I think
we got pretty close.
DAVIS:
There's10 trucks out there,
10 media trucks,
[CHUCKLING] 10 media trucks.
Yep.
It'll be a good outcome.
DAVIS:
He walked out that door asthe sort of aging student hobo.
By the time he had made
this 50-yard walk,
he was a rock star.
He was one of the most
famous guys on the planet.
[PEOPLE CHATTERING]
[CAMERAS CLICKING]
Holy f***.
ASSANGE:
Most of you have readsome of the morning papers.
So, this is The Guardian
from this morning.
Fourteen pages
about this topic.
It's clear that it will
shape an understanding
of what the past six years
of war has been like,
and that the course of
the war needs to change.
NARRATOR:
The war logs revealed aconflict that was very different
from what citizens
had been told.
Civilian casualties were
much higher than reported.
America's supposed ally, Pakistan,
taking military aid
from the U.S.,
even while working with the Taliban
to plan attacks in Afghanistan.
The war logs also revealed the existence
of a secret American assassination squad,
with a terrible record of wounding
and killing women and children.
[GUNFIRE]
LEONARD:
There is nothing that will havegreater consequences for our nation
than the unleashing
of the brutality of war.
To have those types
of decisions,
those types of deliberations,
done in secrecy
is a tremendous disservice
to the American people,
are being done in their names.
And whether you agree
with it or not,
to have a free back-and-forth
airing of these is essential.
All the material is
so it's of no current
operational consequence.
Now, in what circumstances
wouldn't you publish information,
or are there any circumstances in
which you wouldn't publish it?
We have a harm
minimization process.
Our goal is just reform,
our method is transparency.
But we do not put
the method before the goal.
[REPORTERS CLAMORING]
Sorry.
DAVIES:
To my amazement,Julian announced to the world,
"WikiLeaks always conducts
a harm minimization process."
Julian had no harm minimization
process in place at all.
INTERVIEWER:
So, on the WikiLeaksside, were the redactions made?
No.
There were 15,000 documents
in the end got held back.
But 75,000 documents
were published,
and they contained
about 100 names.
NARRATOR:
The newspaperspublished articles,
accompanied by only a few
hundred redacted documents.
But even after the holdbacks,
and despite Julian's promises,
WikiLeaks published 75,000
documents on its website
without redactions.
ROBERT GATES:
The battlefield consequencesof the release of these documents
are potentially
severe and dangerous
for our troops, our allies
and Afghan partners.
[GUNFIRE]
DAVIES:
I do not know whetheranybody subsequently did get hurt-
The fact that
the material was there
and identifiable as
potentially dangerous
did the political damage.
When the material
was first published,
the world was indeed talking about
civilian casualties in Afghanistan,
and about the existence of a squad that
was going out and killing Taliban.
But the White House
managed the news,
and the story became "WikiLeaks
has got blood on their hands."
ADM. MICHAEL MULLEN: Mr. Assange
can say whatever he likes
about the greater good
he thinks he and
his source are doing,
but the truth is they might
already have on their hands
the blood of some young solider
or that of an Afghan family.
He does clearly have
blood on his hands.
BROOKE:
This is where we getinto the information war.
That speculative blood became more
important than the actual blood.
OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM
Coalition troop deaths: 3,936 Afghan
civilian deaths:
15,500 - 17,400Taliban deaths:
15,000 - 25,000
We already can see
all that terrible stuff.
We know about that.
Let's focus on
your nightmares.
How all these people
might die
because the government's
secrets have been unleashed.
DAVIES:
As soon asthey pick up this line
about who's got
blood on their hands,
it's WikiLeaks
being isolated,
and that, from
was a clever move
by the White House.
They stepped all around
any kind of argument
with these big news
organizations
and isolated Julian.
NARRATOR:
By creating a distinctionbetween Assange and the newspapers,
the government avoided a war
with the mainstream media
the guy Bradley Manning called
"the crazy,
white-haired Aussie. "
What was your name?
[ASSANGE SPEAKING]
I don't know what it was,
I know what it is.
What is your name?
Julian.
DAVIS:
Is this takingsome getting used to?
You've been pretty
much in the shadows
as far as the media's
concerned until recently.
We've grown a bit, so this is
now a time for me to do it.
WikiLeaks needs a face?
Yeah, the public demands
that it has a face.
And actually we'd much
sort of prefer,
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