Whitey: United States of America v. James J. Bulger Page #10

Today she finally faced his alleged killer,

James Whitey Bulger.

Donahue:
It was Mother's Day, and Tommy

had just made his first Communion.

I was in the kitchen cooking.

A news bulletin came on the TV

about a gangland slaying.

I didn't pay any attention to it,

because I knew it didn't

concern me.

And I just so happened to look up

and see the car.

And I said, "I think that was his car."

I mean, I was hyperventilating,

I was, like, confused.

I'm thinking, "Oh my God,

where is he?

I need to be with him,

I don't want him to die alone,

I have so much stuff I want

to say to him," you know?

And, nobody came

until ten o'clock that night.

So when they took me

to the hospital finally,

he had already passed.

Within days of the killing, FBI agents,

they came to my house

and harassed me. Accused me of having

an affair with my husband's friend

that was staying with us

from out of town.

I mean, I was like," What?"

For months, they used to sit

outside my salon, you know.

They'd sit outside the house

and I'd say, "How you doing,

have you found out

any more information on my husband?"

"No, nothing yet."

And the whole time they knew.

And I was devastated

because I did not think

that the government was like that.

You know, you think you know them,

and you find out they're

not who you think they are.

Murphy:
Bulger and Flemmi

are suspects,

now, not only in the Wheeler murder,

but in the Halloran

and Donahue murders.

And nothing happens. The FBI

decides to look for John Callahan,

"We need to question John Callahan,

he's the other guy

who was also implicated

in the murder of Roger Wheeler."

They're hunting for him to question him,

and then he's murdered.

Again, nothing happens.

The FBI in Boston,

who do they send out to question

Bulger and Flemmi?

John Connolly. Their handler.

Because we know he's objective, right?

The FBl,

they haven't been on our side

since the day they killed my father.

Took them four and a half hours

to come to my house to tell my mother,

my mother,

whether my father was dead or alive.

They covered up

the murder of my father,

helped pretty much set it up.

It's, it's, it's shameful, it's shameful.

I think the FBI is

worse than the Mafia.

They're the most organized

crime family on the planet,

who can do whatever they want,

change the laws when they want,

and they're not to be screwed with,

to be honest with you.

We've seen that first-hand.

Woman:
Tell us what it was like

to be on the stand today

and look into Whitey Bulger's eyes.

Well, I looked right at him,

but of course he wouldn't look at me,

so as far as I'm concerned,

he's a coward.

He can kill people and not look the

victims in the face, that's a coward.

That's a coward.

You've been saying you're getting

more answers from his defense team...

I am, I am.

And then Jay Carney comes up,

and he asks you questions

that are really meant

to benefit Whitey.

Does that put you

in a strange position?

The questions that Carney

was asking my mother,

those are questions the government

should be asking my mother.

Did you notice the government stood up

and blocked every question they asked.

They don't want us to know anything.

It was blunt, right there.

Carney was asking questions

to help us,

and we were getting blocked

by the prosecution.

Where do we go here, folks?

Kelly:
In the early 90s, when Fred and I

first started working on this case,

it was strange to us, to say the least,

that this individual, Bulger,

had been allowed to run amok

in the city of Boston for so long.

We suspected, as did many

other people in law enforcement,

that Bulger had some relationship

with the FBI

that was...

He was using to prevent

prosecution of himself.

It was in that atmosphere that we

began the case, and targeted him.

And we worked with Tom Foley,

also Tom Duffy from the state police,

who were very savvy investigators.

So what we decided to do was follow

the money, and we started targeting

a bottom line bookmaker

with some of the informants that we had.

We put up a bunch of wiretaps,

and we started climbing up

these bookmakers' organizations.

We went from low to mid,

up to the higher level bookmaker,

until we actually had the highest level,

where that bookmaker was doing

the hand-off to Bulger and Flemmi

as far as payments go.

It took Brian and I about

four or five years to get there.

By 1995, we had our first

racketeering indictment.

Back then, Fred took a lot of

hits over the years,

and we had the courage to go up

against the system, Brian Kelly too.

There was many, right inside the US

Attorney's office, that were in denial,

didn't want to see this

come forward. And they said,

"Well, we're going to wait, we'll do

a joint investigation with the FBI."

And I knew at that time

that this was another stall tactic.

And I told them that, I said,

"Okay, if that's the way

you want to go, but the state

police's position publicly

will be you had the opportunity to

indict him and you didn't indict him."

So, they went back and they had

another huddle with the US Attorney,

and they said, "Okay, the indictment,

we will indict him."

But they insisted that the FBI

participate in the arrest.

So state police targeted Flemmi.

The FBI said they'll take Bulger.

And then one night on January 5th,

we found Flemmi,

and we arrested him

on the streets of Boston.

And we arrested that same weekend,

John Martorano down in Florida.

And we notified the FBl,

"Okay, grab Bulger."

And, uh... that was the end of that.

They never had Bulger,

didn't know where he was.

And it was 16 years later before we

saw James Whitey Bulger again.

We expected that he was tipped

off, and we found out later that

that's what actually had happened.

One of the FBI agents in Boston

told John Connolly that

the indictments were coming down,

and he passed the information

along to Bulger.

After months of sitting in jail,

Stephen Flemmi realized the FBI

and John Connolly were not

coming to his rescue, and he

and he decided to out himself

and Bulger's FBI informants.

I'll never forget, when he

said he was an informant.

I went up to visit him the next day,

or a day later, I said to him,

I go, "Stevie, you're an informant,

you've been giving everybody up."

And he said to me,

"Why should I do another day

with all the information

I've given them people."

I looked at him.

Now I'm like,

"Okay, you know,

what's his next step?"

You know, who's he got left

to give up?

And he looked at me, he said, "Well,

we never said anything about you."

So I was on the phone talking to him

through the glass.

I took the phone and hung it up,

and I stood up, and I looked at him.

I says, "You couldn't say anything

about me."

I says, "Everything I did, I did with you."

I says, "You couldn't give me up

without giving yourself up."

Carney:
Did you have any idea

that Flemmi was an informant

until he revealed it

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