Zero Dark Thirty Page #3

He was a computer guy

with us at the time.

After Tora Bora, I went

back to Pesh, as you know.

Mm-hm.

And they went north, I think, to Kunar.

What's his family name?

Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti.

Abu Ahmed means "father

of Ahmed", it's a kunya.

Ammar, I know the difference between

a war name and an Arabic name.

She got you there, dude.

I swear to you both, I

don't know his family name.

I would have never asked him something

like that. It's not how my uncle worked.

I know.

My uncle told me he worked for bin Laden

Um, I did see him, once,

about a year ago, in Karachi.

He read us all a letter

from the "Sheik".

A letter?

What'd it say?

Cigarette?

It said, "Continue the jihad. "

"The work will go on

for a hundred years. "

You and I are gonna talk about some of

the guys at the training camps, yeah?

Okay.

Some of these brothers

have done some bad things.

What I wanna do is, I wanna separate

them from the people like you.

Definitely, yeah.

All right, a guy called

Abu Ahmed, from Kuwait.

Yes, I remember him. The nice guy.

How close was he? What was his

relationship to the leadership?

I don't know.

Did he eat with you guys?

Did he eat with the good guys,

or did he eat with the leadership?

I don't know, sir. I

have no idea about it.

That's something you

don't need an idea about.

When you met Khalid Sheikh Mohammed,

was this one of the facilitators?

Is this Abu Ahmed?

- KSM, your boss.

- Mukhtar.

"Mukhtar"... "Potato"...

You say, "Po-tah-to"; I say, "F***ing

KSM"; you say, "Mukhtar", okay?

Now, after Mukhtar was

captured, what did Abu Ahmed do?

Abu Ahmed. I believe... I believe,

he went to work for the "Sheik".

Is that him?

- Say it.

- Abu Ahmed.

- Say it again.

- Abu Ahmed.

Abu Ahmed.

Abu Ahmed.

How's the needle in the haystack?

Fine.

Facilitators come and go.

One thing you can count on in

life is that everyone wants money.

You're assuming that al-Qaeda members

are motivated by financial rewards.

They're radicals.

Correct. You're assuming that, uh,

greed won't override ideology

in some of the weaker members.

Money for walk-ins worked great in

the Cold War, I'll give you that.

Thank you.

He says it looks like Abu Ahmed.

Who did he work for?

He was mostly with Abu Faraj.

They were always together.

What did he do for Faraj?

He carried messages from

Abu Faraj to bin Laden,

from bin Laden back to Abu Faraj.

We need to ask him something to

see if he's telling the truth.

We don't know if he really knew Faraj.

He just told me the names of

all of Abu Faraj's children.

I think he's telling the truth.

Twenty detainees recognized

that photo of Abu Ahmed.

They say he's part of an inner circle...

of guys that was hanging

out in Afghanistan pre-9/11.

A lot of them say that after

When KSM was captured, he

went to work for Abu Faraj.

Primarily as a courier,

from Faraj to bin Laden.

That's good, but you still don't have...

Yeah, but we don't know if Abu's

on the outside of the network.

A series of cut-outs and dead drops,

or if he has a direct

connection to bin Laden.

I mean, does bin Laden invite

him into the living room,

and hand him a letter directly,

or is Abu just the last guy...

in a long line of couriers, and

that's why everybody knows him.

That's not all you don't know.

You don't have his real name.

- You don't have a clue of where he is.

- Yes, but we know that he's important.

The fact that everybody's

heard of Abu Ahmed,

but nobody will tell me

where he is, suggests that.

Maybe.

Detainees can withhold his

location for any number of reasons.

Perhaps they don't know.

Perhaps this "Abu" is actually a cover

story and he's really a f***ing unicorn.

But the withholding doesn't reveal

what you want it to, does it?

No.

And if you did find him, you don't

know that he'd be with bin Laden.

We don't know what we don't know.

What the f*** is that supposed to mean?

It's tautology.

Listen, not one single detainee has said

that he's been located with the big guy.

Just that he delivers

messages, am I wrong?

No.

It's still good work. Let me know when

you've got some actual intelligence.

Preferably, something

that leads to a strike.

This is what remains of the No. 10 bus,

which was travelling through

Tavistock Square, near Euston station.

There'd been explosions near Liverpool

Street and Edgware Road stations too.

Dozens of the survivors

were critically injured,

but many of the wounded were

also keen to share their stories.

We just pulled out of Edgware Road,

and next thing I know, is a

loud, um, large flash of light.

Uh, I felt a burning sensation on my

hands, put my hands up to my face...

Uh, I was on the floor by that point...

Yeah, I can't recall anything prior

to that anymore. Any noise, any bang...

Normal life in one of the busiest parts

of the capital has now been suspended.

Just a few yards down the road here,

they continue to care for the injured.

And all around, groups of Londoners are

standing on corners, asking themselves,

"What has happened here, and who

could possibly have done this?"

Come on.

You too, come on.

You agency guys are twisted.

Detainee's ready for you.

Come on. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa...

I want you to understand that I know you

I've been following you, and

studying you, for a long time.

I chased you in Lahore.

I had you picked up

instead of killing you,

because you're not a violent

man, and you don't deserve to die.

Thank you.

But you do have deep ties to

al-Qaeda I want to ask you about,

before you get sent to your next

location, which might be Israel.

However, depending on how

candid you are here today,

I may be able to keep you in Pakistan.

What do you want to know?

I'm gonna ask you a series of questions,

based on your knowledge of al-Qaeda,

and your position as key

financier for the organization.

I have dealt with the horrors.

I have no wish to be tortured again.

Ask me a question, I will answer it.

What can you tell me

about Atiyah Abdul-Rahman?

He works for Zawahiri. He's

in charge of military tactics.

In what context have you

ever heard the name Abu Ahmed?

He works for Faraj and bin Laden.

He is his most trusted courier.

What makes you say that?

He brought me many

messages from the "Sheik".

Where did you last see

him, and where is he now?

- You will never find him.

- Why is that?

Even I couldn't find him. He

always contacted me out of the blue.

He's one of "the disappeared ones".

You're in luck, I got you

a one-on-one with Faraj.

Seriously? Thank you.

Don't you thank me until

you hear what I want for it.

I want you to take care of all

this before your favorite subject.

Deal.

Don't you wanna see whats in the folder?

You want family ties, financial networks

media sources, disgruntled employees,

imminent threats, homeland plots,

foreign sales, health status,

financial resources, tradecraft,

recruiting tactics, anything else?

- No, I think that covers it.

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