Zizek! Page #5
if you want to be
absolutely opportunist.
Aqua Congas.
- Aqua Congas?
- Yeah.
Why shouldn't I order?
Could you put it there?
Thank you.
No, I mean, where to put it.
- You want to show it?
- Yeah.
Why do you want to...
Why did you say it was
a fundamental misunderstanding
that so many people came?
No, in the simple sense
that I have this terrible feeling
that they expect something
which they will not get,
and I wonder what.
Many leftists expect
the formula, you know:
I will teach them what to do.
Sh*t, what do I know?
Some people expect...
You feel like that's what
that audience was looking for.
- Specifically?
- No.
It's a simple
common sense insight:
Wait a minute. 2,000 people...
although I think
they exaggerated...
whatever, thousand people
cannot all have
the same interest in Lacan
as I do, no?
- Can I ask you a simple question?
- What?
If you were to have a daughter,
would you allow this guy
to take your daughter to cinema?
Be honest.
The answer is, no.
I hate the way I appear.
In some documents,
it's even worse.
It's really as a kind
of a criminal
that I appear, you know.
You think they were expecting
just a sort of political advisor?
No, the problem is,
whenever I talk about politics,
- I feel it as if it's a fake.
- What?
Not in the sense
that I'm faking,
that I don't mean it,
but my heart is not in it.
The book that I really
enjoyed writing
was the one on Hegel...
sorry, on Schelling.
- "Ticklish Subjects."
- Right.
And that part of the message
doesn't get through.
You can immediately see also
in the way it...
For example, of my last books,
the one that I really loved,
"The Opera's Second Death."
That one is doing
very modestly, nothing.
But that's what I love.
No, we didn't yet, no?
I'll tell you...
Wait a minute.
Is this just drinks?
First you should look here,
the Venice.
You have calarinas,
filet Milanese,
ensalada csar.
This is just for people
who come to be shocked
and hopefully to get out.
So that is why you have it?
So when people open the door,
they go...
that I will get rid of them.
That's the only fun.
Has it ever worked?
- Yeah.
- Really?
As a matter of fact, yeah.
Some people
were actually offended.
My big worry is not to be ignored,
but to be accepted.
When I appear to be sarcastic,
the point is not
to take seriously.
What is not to be
taken seriously
is the very form of sarcasm.
It's the form of the joke
which masks the effect
that I'm serious.
But people still have this idea
that this guy did some big crimes.
No.
Of course it's not
as simple as that
that I'm simply a Stalinist.
It would be crazy,
tasteless, and so on.
But...
obviously, there is
something in it
that it's not simply a joke.
When I say the only chance
that the left appropriate fascism,
it's not a cheap joke.
The point is to avoid the trap
of the standard
liberal oppositions:
Freedom versus
totalitarian order,
discipline, and so on,
to rehabilitate
notions of discipline,
collective order, subordination,
sacrifice, all that.
I don't think
this is inherently fascist.
Often, friends tell me,
"But why do you provoke
people unnecessarily?
Why don't you simply
say what you mean,
that, of course,
you are against fascism?"
I tell them,
"Yes, this is good
as an abstract theoretical"...
not even theoretical...
intellectual, whatever, statement.
But it doesn't work like that.
For example,
concerning Stalinism,
my God, I've probably
written more about Stalinism,
about its most horrible
aspects,
than most of the people
who reproach me with Stalinism.
And that's my wager here,
that sorry, the only way
to get the message
If you say, "Of course
I'm against fascism.
There are just some attitudes
which were traditional
even more to the left,
but fascism appropriated them,"
I think it doesn't have
the desired precise
political effect.
It enables the liberal consensus
to reappropriate it.
You must say it
with this excess.
One hour be enough,
or you need more?
These are, of course, again,
the Lufthansa socks.
I stole two of them today.
I went to wash my hair,
and then I was
in an intense situation,
and then the woman hairdresser
notice it,
and told me, "Why don't I
give you a massage with some oil?"
I enjoyed it,
but I felt so obscene,
as if I paid for masturbation.
- Masturbating is so obscene.
- It is a little bit.
But it was relaxing. It is nice.
- Really?
- But it's too much.
My God, where are you?
This reminds me of socialism,
carrying water
in plastic bottle.
Really?
Yeah, because they were
waiting for us.
You see? We were not late.
I realize it,
because you're not here.
But they wait for us,
you see?
Yeah, they didn't
start without you.
They were waiting for us.
Let's start as soon as possible.
Let's go in.
The majority of academics
who are obsessed
with this idea
"The left needs a new answer":
Isn't it basically
"We want a radical revolution,
but at the same time,
we want our relatively
prosperous lives
to go on undisturbed"?
Like precisely as already
Robespierre said,
"We want revolution
without revolution."
There is, I notice,
a fundamental difference between
the standard plurality
of struggles
which progressive liberals...
What does it mean?
Isn't it in a way false
even to expect such a clear
political formula
in the sense of "All we need
is a bright intellectual
to tell us what to do,
and then capitalism
will be over,
we'll have socialism," and so on?
I'm too stupid.
I don't understand.
- I'm sorry.
- I really wanted you to read this.
Thank you very much.
Again, I have to accept this,
again, almost Lacanian
decenterment of subjectivity,
which is that
"I stand for something,
but I don't really master...
dominate what I stand for."
People see things in me.
They have some expectations.
There may be political
expectations
that I will provide the formula,
the big question that everybody's
expecting today
from a leftist intellectual...
"What should we do?"...
or some kind
of spiritual guidance
to help them psychologically,
or theoretical amusement
in the sense of many dirty jokes
or examples from movies.
And I honestly accept that.
I think that my reaction
to this
should be not so much
"It's all a big misunderstanding,
they're missing my big point,"
but my duty's basically
to try and occupy the position
of the analyst,
which is basically to play,
in a way of transference,
with these expectations,
and to undermine,
frustrate them,
to make it clear to them
that the question is not
what I can give them,
but are these expectations
legitimate?
What this expectation should
tell them about themselves.
It was usually
that big progressive act
was like it was Nixon,
not Democrats,
who had to do it with China.
This paradox...
It was in France.
It was de Gaulle,
not socialists, who...
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