56 Up
They are now 56.
Lynn, Sue and Jackie grew up
in London's East End
and were friends
at school.
In this school,
we do metalwork
and woodwork
and the boys
do cookery.
All you girls want to do
is walk out, get married,
have babies and push
a pram down the street
with a fag hanging out
the side of your mouth.
I think that we all
could have gone
any way that we wanted to
at the time
within our
capabilities.
But we only had
a limited choice anyway.
Truth be told...
we didn't have the choice
or private education
because they couldn't have
afforded it anyway.
Our lives are changing
far too much.
All of us.
To be honest, when you look
at the 7-year-old us,
it's difficult to believe
it is us.
I've got to say, girls,
I wanted to work
in Woolworth's.
I'm glad you said that, 'cause
everyone thinks it was me.
Sometimes we go out and play
nasty with the boys
and sometimes we go out
and argue with the boys.
I don't think I'll get married
too early.
I'd like to have
a full life first.
Marriage means a different thing
to me.
I've still got my ideals
about marriage.
I don't know
what it's all about.
Sue was 24
when she married Billy
and they had two children,
William and Katherine.
I think that
to get married young,
there must be things
that you miss.
You must miss that crucial stage
of being yourself,
because the minute you
get married,
you're no longer a single being,
you're a partnership,
and that should be
the idea behind it.
By the time Sue was 35,
she was divorced.
I've never sat down
and thought,
"What was it?
Was it this, was it that?"
I just knew
it wasn't working.
There have been relationships
when I could have settled,
but they didn't feel
quite right.
So I've always come away
and pulled away
and just waited until
the right one come along.
If they ever do.
Said you'd be comin' back...
At 42, when we filmed Sue
in the karaoke bar,
she brought Glen along
to watch her sing.
Oh, baby
We just met and things are going well,
but now, obviously,
things are going very well.
Well, we've been engaged now
for about...
14 years.
I'm not beating any records,
but it's quite a long time, isn't it, yeah.
Come on!
Jessie, come on!
We're completely different
people.
He's very energetic
and tidy-minded,
and I'm lazy
and completely un...
You're lazy?
I am completely,
absolutely lazy.
Anything you want me
to do?
What about the romance
of getting married?
Yeah, I mean,
I do admit it would be a nice party
of having everyone round
and having a good old drink
and a celebration.
But I can have
a party anytime.
Who are you on the phone to?
Never you mind.
When I got married,
the primary reason was because
I wanted to have a child.
The two to me went together.
Have you and Glen thought
of having your own child?
Glen would have
made a great dad.
When we first got together,
he sort of asked me
if we could have a family
and all that,
but I felt that I was past it,
to be honest.
I mean, I had two teenagers and didn't want
to do that again.
But he's loved
bringing them up.
Last time we talked about
a bit of tension in that area.
No, I think that was
probably just the age they were
and every family goes
through that.
There was nothing in particular,
I don't think.
It's just the whole part
of growing up, really.
Wasn't easy being
a single mother, was it?
No, it wasn't.
I look back on it now
and I'm just amazed
at how I got through it,
you know.
What was
the toughest part of it?
Probably a combination of not having
enough money to do what you want
when things happen
and things go wrong, which they
always do when you've got kids.
You've got no one there
to turn to, you know,
to talk about things
like that.
And you had to work.
Yeah, but I was always
only part-time,
so that I could fit it
around school.
So who was
the biggest help to you
during this whole
single-parent...?
There's no doubt at all,
without my mum and dad,
I would never have survived it.
They were brilliant.
They were really good.
They mean the world to the kids
and they used to look
after them.
Always be there if something happened
and I had to go somewhere.
Yeah, nice, ain't they?
And how
are they doing now?
Yeah, they're fine.
Dad's 80 now.
And mum's 78.
they're still reasonably active.
There you go.
That's lovely, that one,
isn't it?
I've still got Katherine
with me
because she hasn't found
anywhere else to go.
I mean, I'm sure she would
love to leave me,
but I love it,
the fact that she's here.
We go shopping
and do girlie things.
Do each other's hair
and things like that,
so I would miss her,
but I know
that she needs to get out
and move on.
Only had to have one filling.
That's about the only thing
that I had done.
What about William?
Well, he went
to Australia for a year.
And he never settled back in,
being independent.
I think it was too much.
Plus his room here
was far too small.
And his computer was bigger
than the room, you know.
So, um...
Yes, he's renting.
It's just so hard for him to
be able to afford something,
so in the future, your kids
are going to be with you
for a long, long time.
But a lot of my work is involved
in making bookings
and dealing with
hotels abroad.
At 21, Sue worked
for a travel agent.
At 35, part-time
for a building society.
Everything's changed for me
because I'm now
supporting myself a lot more
than I was, say, a year ago.
At 42, she went back to work
full-time,
helping to run the courses
in the legal faculty
of Queen Mary College,
University of London.
At 49, she was
the main administrator
for their
post-graduate program.
Do you like
the responsibility?
Yeah, I love
the responsibility.
I think I was born
for the responsibility.
I'm now sort of
the coordinator
of the entire program.
So, sort of "Marge in charge,"
really, of the LLM.
It's like my baby, really.
You know, I've nurtured it from its
small beginnings into what it is now.
Thank you very much.
See you at graduation, yeah?
I get up of a morning
and I don't ever think, "oh,
I can't face going to work. "
But that happens to a lot of
people, so I'm lucky, really.
Someone's having trouble
downloading this attachment
so I'll take this down
for them.
Sue, you've got
a lot of responsibility.
Is there stress
attached to it?
Sometimes. I mean,
some parts of the year
are busier than others,
and you've got deadlines
to meet.
But then, in a way,
that's good,
because it keeps you
on your toes, you know.
Never get bored.
Where does the life of my
respectable, middle-class mother
overlap with
a working-class slapper
who leaves her illegitimate
child on a church doorstep?
- She was not!
- You don't know!
She was young and frail...
It started not long after
the last program with Tony,
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