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my neighbor, and he belonged

to the group.

And I said,

"Oh, I've been wishing

I could do dramas for years,"

you know,

since I was at school,

and he said, "Come along. "

That's the time you must

keep on trying

Smile

What's the use of crying...

To stand on the stage

and sing

and have people, hopefully,

appreciate it, hopefully,

you know, but there's still

that little nervous thing,

the butterflies in your stomach

when you're waiting

for the curtains to open

and, you know,

it's a buzz, really.

Realistically, this is the point

you really do have to consider.

You can't do two modules

that are taught

at the same time, obviously.

When I get on the stage to speak

to 500 students,

some people would find that

very daunting.

But I actually don't

because I think if you know they

can never ask you something

you don't know the answer to,

then I think that helps build

your confidence.

And I'm not exactly shy,

am I?

It always takes one, you see.

Once you get one,

other people tend to ask.

You never went

to university and now

you're right in the middle of

a huge university machine.

I suppose I should count

my blessings

that I'm actually in

a university,

having not done it myself,

yeah.

Looking at it,

do you wish you had had that opportunity?

Not really.

It's the same as anything.

Why look back and say, "I wish

I did this or had done that"?

I've had a good career.

At least I'll have my own home.

Which is a new thing

for my family.

My mom and dad are obviously

still in Council Place.

I'll never be a rich pensioner;

I'll never be able

to travel the world once

I retire, I'm afraid,

but as long as I can keep

the house warm

and we can feed ourselves,

that will be fine.

I don't like the big boys

hitting us

and the prefects

sending us out for nothing.

When he was 7,

Paul was in care

in a children's home

in London.

Were you happy at

the children's home in England?

We didn't mind that, really,

because we didn't know

what was going on

'cause we were a bit young.

Well, as far as I know,

my mother and father...

Well, they separated

originally, I think.

And they eventually

got divorced.

I went to the boarding school

for one year

and then we emigrated

to Australia.

Paul settled with his father

and stepmother

in a suburb of Melbourne.

Would you like to get

married, Paul?

Tell me why not.

I don't like like, um...

Say you had a wife.

Like, say you had to eat

what they cooked you.

And say I don't like greens.

Well, I don't.

I know I'd prefer

to be alone, really.

I can't say I don't want

to get married,

'cause I think I do, but I want

to be happily married,

and not before

when I'm not sure.

What was it that you

fell in love with?

What is it about him?

His helplessness,

I suppose.

Just the motherly instinct

in me,

to pick him up

and cuddle him.

He's also very good-looking,

I think,

but he doesn't agree with me.

In the summer, he's got this

cute little bum in shorts.

I mean, I can tell

quite a few stories,

but the one that really

irritates me the most is,

when we have an argument,

he says, "That's it, leave me. "

I say, "Fine, all right,

I will one day. "

We had our 20th wedding

anniversary

just before Christmas.

Which is

the life sentence.

And one reckons that we

should be out of jail by now.

To a certain extent,

we started thinking,

well, do we really know

each other now?

Because you just get in

the humdrum

of going to work,

coming back home.

Running kids here...

Kids here and there.

I don't think you mean to be,

probably stop thinking

about each other a lot.

It's still the last

person you want to see at night

before you go to sleep

and the first person

you want to see

when you wake up.

Do you still like to

cuddle and love and all that?

Yeah, but not in public.

No. Yes.

But is

the chemistry still there?

Yes.

You don't sound sure.

Well, we like

to keep it private.

I had to wait

for the answer.

I find it hard to express

emotion most of the time.

Although I'm getting on top of

that more now, you know.

Just the simple things

to say to Susan.

"I love you,"

something like that.

I mean, I can tell you

about it,

but I really haven't been able

to say it

to Sue, you know.

I did end up having to get

a bit of help.

It wasn't directly due

to our relationship.

It started at work,

unfortunately.

Which brought

my self-esteem down,

which tended to affect

everything else.

I know the lack of confidence

is there.

It still applies to me.

But I don't dwell on it.

It's there, and I have

to put up with it.

I just think you take on

a little bit more of

each other's personality.

'Cause whenever I was decisive

and made a decision and said,

"Let's do this," because Paul,

not that he couldn't make

the decision

but he had all these questions

to ask, and I used to think,

"Oh, stop asking questions,"

and I suppose now I start to question myself,

"maybe he should

ask the questions. "

So it is that bit of living

with the other personality.

I was going to be

a policeman

but I thought how hard it would

be to join in.

I was going to be

a phys-ed teacher,

but one of the teachers

told me that

you had to get up

into university.

As a young man,

Paul spent many years

in the building trade

and then moved on

into factory work.

Okay, the question was,

Gracie Fields' sang...

"In the what

in the Moonlight?"

It's a retirement village

with independent living.

And then it's got

assisted living in the hostel,

which is mainly

where I work.

It's got six letters.

Gracie Fields sang...

They have their own laundry.

It's a complete unit.

They have their own

lockup garage.

So there's a couple

of parcels there...

And that's why Paul's there.

I call him "the man about

the house" at work,

because he changes

light globes.

Problems with your taps,

they go check it out.

Cleans the gutterings,

fixes squeaky doors,

'cause the village is now

25 years old.

So the maintenance is starting

to gather.

How are you doing

up there, Paul?

When the job came up,

I said to Susan

that if there was

any problem at all

with us working together,

then I'd leave.

But so far we've found it

really quite good.

- Hi, Lola, how are you?

- I'm good, Paul.

I've probably always been

a little bit more relaxed

around older people, probably.

Always liked older people as I

was growing up, funny enough.

By the time they were 28,

Paul and Sue had two children,

Katie and Robert.

Katie did well at school

and went on to university,

the first person

in her entire family

ever to do so.

Robert trained

as a car mechanic.

He met his wife Stacey

when they were teenagers

and now they have

five children.

So there's Lucas,

who is 9.

Then there's Ryan,

who is about to turn 7

at the end of this month.

Then there's Haley, who's just

turned 5.

And she'll start school

in the new year.

Then there's Shane,

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