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silent as a newly dug tomb. "
- So I'm a little kid...
I'm a real little kid...
and I'm by all reports
Curly haired...
I mean, I remember
everybody loving me.
I remember, you know,
strangers doting on me'
and I remember
trusting everyone'
and I remember delighting in,
figuring out what's going on.
What, you know,
day and night is,
and what, you know,
the sun is.
I was a good little kid,
you know?
And I deserved a break.
I was a sweetheart like
every little kid. You know?
I deserved a break.
And I didn't know
what was headed my way.
You know,
my parents who weren't...
they just went out sometimes
so they had a babysitter.
And, uh...
the babysitter
kind of set me up
and made me like her a lot.
And then this guy
started coming over
who was her mother's
boyfriend or something.
You know, something that was
an arrangement that wouldn't
have been formally
discussed in the late 50s.
Sometimes you know
who's not good.
And anyway this guy
was not good.
And,you know,
I can remember him, like,
touching my curly hair.
There was always, like,
an attraction, you know'?
Like, I generally
didn't mind but this guy...
there was something just wrong.
You know, I couldn't tell
you now how many times.
I mean, I could never...
how many times or whatever
but it was a number of times.
This guy would come over,
he would take me down in the
basement and... rape me.
- Barry felt that it was key
to interview you.
He actually said to me
that you're his hero.
And that's in regards to...
ms rape.
- It's scary for anybody
of any age to really see
someone who's gone,
who's the face of evil,
who's like this nothing.
There's no soul there.
There's nothing.
It's just so...
possessed by what they have,
what they feel like
they have to do,
what they can't not do.
And I would of course
scream and cry...
and... my face would get shoved
to muffle the noise.
Well, this sewed to
suffocate me and I...
I would get asphyxiated
and pass out.
This is...
a lot to ask of me.
Anyway, so...
let's see...
So I was, like, five.
So I.. - even like a normal
five year old,
I sneaked in the house, right?
And nobody was upstairs.
So I thought that was
very strange, like,
you know, where's Barry?
Where's the babysitter?
So...
I went downstairs,
walked down the stairs and...
you know, I thought
Barry was dead.
Then the babysitter saw me
and yelled my name
and then Barry
looked up at me...
And I ran and just...
knew he needed help.
So I made it up
almost to the top stair
and she got my foot'
and I was screaming,
and I bit the babysitter.
Pretty hard.
- I read of this poor
little girl in India
who was raped to death.
Imagine that. I mean,
I've been through some stuff'
Well, I mean, that's the
end of your whole life.
And I just felt
so badly for her,
felt so terrible for her.
And I was,
you know, relating to it,
and I was just thinking, yeah,
so, it could've been worse.
I had almost been raped
- But it's that glance
that gets you,
you know what I mean?
Life registers in, in... kind of
visually on people, you know?
It's a glance that lasts
a lifetime, you know?
Just like the glance from
my brother, you know?
And I had to, like, belt out of
there and run up some stairs
and what the hell'
and yet the whole world
was changed for both of us
from that point on,
you know?
- It was the most shocking thing
I think in my life that I heard,
I mean, it makes you
just revile humanity.
It makes you want to hug Barry
and just... or f***ing kill him,
you know,
put him out of his misery.
And it just took a long time for
me as his friend to get over it.
- To me it gave me
a little bit of resolve
knowing the man that I do.
'Cause there was, there
There was always something.
- He's always seemed a little angry.
- There was always...
- he was always pissed off at something, and...
- And he'd show it on stage too.
- And it started to
kind of fit into place.
- I do remember the
headline in The Phoenix:
"Baby Rape. "
And it was,
you know, something
that I don't think
I understood,
fully comprehended at first.
It was like something
that I myself would go'
you know, "Why, why would you,
why are you talking about that?"
You know?
"That was a long time ago.
Why bring that up?"
You know?
And it wasn't until that I came
to terms with my own sexuality
and my own abuse
that I looked back
on that and said,
"Look at how courageous,
you know,
he was to admit that
and not be afraid. "
A lot of gay people
here tonight?
Just me. OK.
You know, Lenny
had called Crimmins
and told him that I was gay.
And then he called me
and it wasn't...
he didn't even ask me,
you know,
if I was or wasn't gay.
It was just, like,
this kindness that he had that,
it would be okay if I was.
And I just continued to
deny it, you know?
"No, I'm not, I'm not. "
Because that was my whole life,
you know?
That, you know,
you were just, like'
constantly hiding
that you are who you are'
you know,
so I couldn't admit it.
It took me a long time to,
you know, come to that,
come to those terms'
and when I did, you know,
I called Barry and it wasn't...
he didn't say, "I knew it,"
or anything like that.
It was just this kindness
that he had,
and if it was anything that,
you know,
if there was anything
that he could do to help me,
you know,
he would be there.
But you can be
a football player.
You can be a f***ing homo
and be a football player.
How about that?
You couldn't do that
years ago.
Now you can be
a football player.
And everybody's going,
"Oh my God, he's so brave.
He's so brave!
He plays football,
and he's gay.
He's brave.
That's brave. "
I'll tell you what's brave.
I told my wife I was gay.
That's brave, alright?
That is brave.
- So many people
said this to me:
"Well, are you talking
to anyone about it?"
Yeah, I thought I was
f***in' talking to you.
You know?
But what they're really saying
is go talk to the psychiatrist
who's then gonna...
and I did, and you know'
they said, "Well, there's
a variety of things... "
and basically they
were just telling me
what drugs
they could put me on
and for once in my life
I turned down drugs.
- I was sitting in the offices
of Moving Forward,
the news journal that
I published and edited,
and answering phones,
and I get this call
and it's Barry Crimmins.
So he told me a
little bit about himself,
but it was very humble,
you know?
He didn't get into,
you know,
all this stuff about
being a famous person
or, you know,
anything like that.
He really just wanted
someone to talk to.
He had been rejected repeatedly
by numerous organizations
who were out there
supposedly helping victims
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