Capturing the Friedmans Page #10
"I'm not gonna do it.
You're not guilty,
you're not pleading guilty."
And at that point,
he told me that
"I have something to tell you."
And with tears rolling down
his eyes, literally
he told me that he was abused by
his father growing up
and that while he never enjoyed
the sexual part of that
he did enjoy the attention
his father gave him
and being with his father
and that not everything
he had said
about nothing happened was true.
Peter Panaro
was personally convinced
that my father
had sexually abused me
could dissuade Peter
from this notion.
Jesse felt that
if Judge Boklan knew
that he also was a victim
of his father
that she might consider
the plea negotiations
in a more favorable way.
He came up with this strategy.
It was Peter Panaro's
fictionalized story
that he fed to me
and said, "If you say this,
it's gonna look good for you."
I told him I wouldn't do it.
I told him, "Jesse, when you
plead guilty in open court"
you're gonna have to admit
to this type
of anal sodomy 14 times.
And I'm not gonna
let you do that
"unless you can admit it."
always liked to call me
by my name
before he made a statement
and said,
"Peter, I can admit it."
The only concern
was that ethically as a lawyer
he couldn't let
his client go into court
and say something happened
that he knew his client
had told him was a lie.
The private investigator wasn't
coming up with anything helpful.
There was not gonna be
any defense witnesses.
There wasn't any money
to hire experts.
Mom was insistent upon
there not being a trial.
Peter Panaro wasn't believing me
no matter how many times
I told him nothing happened.
I just ran out of options.
Jesse was a very good baby.
I remember when we brought him
home from the hospital
that baby and he said
"That child is marvelous.
He's wonderful"
and he was so thrilled.
And David was the big brother
and he used to
take care of Jesse.
We used to let David watch him
and he was very protective
of his baby brother.
It's amazing.
Six months from now
I already don't have
a father or a mother.
Six months from now
I'm not gonna have my brother.
If I ever watch this
I don't know when it's gonna be.
I don't know where I'm gonna be.
I don't know what's
gonna happen to my family.
I'm so scared.
I don't want to have
to spend the next 8 hours
screaming with my sons
and fighting with them.
Then don't.
I want them out of this house
tomorrow morning.
Mom
I don't give a sh*t.
I want you out of this house
tomorrow morning.
You may not
give a sh*t about Jesse
but we are here for Jesse.
What are you all
talking about here?
Can't you put your anger aside
for one minute?
about you.
You have been nothing but
hateful, hostile, and angry
ever since this began.
OK, Jess, we're on.
Ta da. I feel like sh*t.
What's today's date?
Today's the day
before I went to jail.
"Went" to jail?
- I'm going to jail.
after I'm already out of jail.
After 4, 4 1/2 years
because the case gets reopened.
At this point in time,
my life is as good as over.
It is terminated at this point
only to resume at a later date.
This one'll go,
this one'll shatter.
The night before Jesse's plea
we stayed up all night.
Maybe I shot the videotape
so that I wouldn't
have to remember it myself.
It's a possibility
because I don't really remember
it outside of the tape.
Like when your parents take
pictures of you
or do you remember
just the photograph
hanging on the wall?
Even if I'm facing the worst
scenario possible tomorrow
and for every day following it
I have to think tonight
that it's not gonna be that bad.
Goodness knows
I don't want to look
like my father.
Goodness knows,
I want to separate myself
from Arnold Friedman
as much as possible
and I'm not throwing
chairs tomorrow.
Good.
And if this trial
were postponed for 3 years
in 3 years, I would win.
But here today, at this point
trying to start a trial
in two weeks
I would lose this trial.
We feel this way
and that is what would happen.
So what are you thinking, Jess?
I'm not.
You're avoiding?
Well, I gotta eat something.
I'm proud to say
any gas in the car.
See, just our luck
we'll be trapped at the house.
We'll run out of gas
at the house.
- You a child molester, Jess?
- Nope.
Did you ever do it?
Never touched a kid.
Did you do what
they said you did?
I never saw my father
touch a kid.
Good.
Yeah, but still,
you must have done it.
Yeah, but surely
something has happened.
It must, something.
Because the police
say it's true.
OK, you never
touched a kid, right?
Well, if something happened
it didn't happen
while I was there.
And it was a minimal incident
because the kid didn't
say anything about it.
But the police,
how could they be lying?
Shut up, Seth.
The children
the 14 children in this case
are clearly victims.
The real culprit here
is Arnold Friedman.
The man is a monster.
He abused him
and he molested him.
This can't be overlooked.
I can't believe we live
in such a cold society
that no one could look at this
man and understand that.
about what was right
and what was wrong
and I realize now
how terribly wrong it all was.
I wish I could have done
something to stop it sooner.
I wish there was something
I could have done.
I'm very, I'm
I'm just so sorry it happened.
Judge Boklan sternly looked down
and said that she recommended
to the parole board
that he serve the maximum period
of time permitted by law
was harsh and unnecessary
to a 19-year-old
under these circumstances.
Jesse was a victim.
There's no question,
Jesse was a victim
but even when he was caught
Jesse never expressed any kind
and as a matter of fact
on the day that
the plea was taken
Jesse was dancing and singing on
the courthouse steps
while being videotaped by
his two brothers.
My brain hurts!
It'll have to come out.
My brain, but I'm using it!
But I'm using it!
Nurse!
Nurse!
They were taking pictures.
I remember someone
brought that to my attention.
We looked out the window.
Because I'm saying to myself
"This is very bizarre."
I mean he's about to go to jail
for the next 6 to 18 years
and he's out on
the courtroom steps
in some sort of
theatrical performance.
That is so funny,
when they're all
I think it was about
distracting ourselves
not necessarily
distracting Jesse.
Jesse was
I think he was
the most comfortable
about the whole situation.
You know
I don't know how
he has always been
the most comfortable about it,
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