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a lot of the technology
Of the internet is
actually based on
Peer to peer functionality.
It had never been
used in this way.
This was something
entirely different.
This was all the
content in one place.
It was an amazing experience
and everything was up there.
Everything.
But things change.
And you gotta change with it.
And to stick your feet
in the mud when the world
Is tearing by you
like a bullet train,
Is just laughable.
And you get real old, real fast.
And you got into the,
kind of the, the bin
In about one, one year,
You're like yesterday's news
'Cause you didn't keep up.
Some of those labels
got caught out there.
Some of the artists got
caught out there.
'Cause they have an
older school look
At the music industry.
From the moment that
hank came in,
He was looking at making
deals and he did
Everything but turn
cartwheels on
Hollywood boulevard in
order to get them.
I think it was, you know,
We will not negotiate
with terrorists.
You know and i think, you know,
that's literally
How they perceived napster
And i think you know,
in most things,
Um, you know, you need a hero
And before you can find you
know, that hero,
You need to clearly
identify the villain.
And we were that.
All of a sudden, one day
I got a call from cliff
bernstein saying,
They're playing i disappear
On 30 radio stations.
I go, how can that be possible?
We haven't even finished it yet?
And then we sort of, you know,
looked into it
And traced it back to some
company called napster.
And we were like, huh?
It went straight downhill from
there, boys and girls.
[Laughing]
The moment, the
quintessential moment
Where i knew it was
out of control
Was uh, when metallica
delivered napster
User names for us to block.
The heavy metal band, metallica
Has been most vocal in its
opposition to napster.
And drummer, lars ulrich
Even plans on delivering a
truckload of paper
To the company, listing people
Who use its software to share
unauthorized mp3s.
Thus, kicking off
metallica's much-Hyped,
Monsters of miniae filled
legal battles tour.
We could, we couldn't
believe how, you know,
What, what, how,
how crazy this was.
You know, metallica was
coming to our office
To deliver boxes full of,
I think it was like 260,000
names of infringing users.
Who were violating
metallica's copyright.
Uh, they could have put it,
On, on a old three and a half
inch floppy disc.
But no, nope.
They printed them all out
on paper and not,
What metallica has done is harvest
user names from the internet.
And from the napster site. Now
anybody can get that
It doesn't necessary uh,
correlate to uh,
To actual legal names of
napster users.
They simply downloaded anyone
Who has a metallica
song available
On the napster site.
There you go.
Now, once again,
We're not going after these
people specifically.
What we're merely doing,
is giving napster
The information that
they thought
That we couldn't gather.
Which is basically, real people
Downloading metallica
master songs.
Not bootleg live recordings.
What will they do?
the napster people out there,
They could take that question.
Do not go anywhere near the
front of the office.
Because it's gonna be, you know,
And uh, we were like
opening the windows,
Trying to look out to see
what was going on.
Finally, shawn and sean are
like, this is done.
And fanning and i
decided at one point,
Just prior to lars arriving,
That we would sneak out the back
door of the office
And run across the
street and watch.
Just watch this whole spectacle.
And we were like just laughing,
hysterically.
There's a podium set up
on the sidewalk.
I mean 25 mikes from
news organizations
To get the pearls of wisdom
And views of lars ulrich,
Who then takes a few questions,
but you know,
He's got to actually deliver
the names and so,
There we are, uh, bonnie and
clyde, in the elevator,
Uh, where if you had a shot of
it, the doors closed
And it's howard king
and lars ulrich
And a couple other thugs.
And the doors closed and lars
turns to us and says,
'Hey guys, nothing personal'.
At which point, the door was
open to be like,
Well why didn't we talk to
each other about this?
I'm sure it's not the
end of the story,
Well i think he probably assumed
That he'd walk into a dark,
expansive room
And you'd be, you know, sitting
in a chair with like
A, a cat. Do you know
what i mean?
With like tv
monitors in the back
And i mean the reality
was you know,
That this was a really low rent,
shitty office building
With a bunch of kids
running around in it.
And i'm sure he was blown away.
But i will tell you that a
few minutes ago,
When i dropped off all the names
that they asked for
Uh, i met two really nice
guys up there uh,
I put a human face to this
whole thing napster
And we had a very civil, very
cordial conversation
For ten, 15 minutes. They
said their side,
I said my side.
And its sort of like the
ultimate thing
In just american society, agree,
disagree.
Coming from two different
points of view.
But you know, what, to me,
napster keep trying to do,
Is try to sort of you know,
drag it out
And make it about
metallica and their fans
Or make it you know, why didn't
lars call us personally?
Come on, you know, like let's
stop bullshitting
Each other here.
most unhip thing
That i've seen a big
rock star do.
I would imagine a celine
dion or something
Might be the first one out
there, but uh, but nobody,
Uh, nobody that uses napster,
I don't think there's
probably any
Celine dion songs being shared.
So that's probably uh,
That's probably where it's at.
There's one picture of this guy,
uh,
With a metallica t-Shirt and,
And standing right next to a guy
With an aftra t-Shirt.
It's like this is,
This is oh my god, this is
out of control.
This is the vortex of this
Crazy tornado
hurricane that we're,
We're in the center of.
The center of the debate.
Do you agree with these guys?
Uh, depends on which guys
you're talking about,
I agree with metallica.
That's cool.
And you know, it's true, for
some reason metallica
Had decided that they
were going to be
The lightening rod for all
these other artists,
Who were like, you know,
not quite sure
What they thought of the thing.
Um, and, but they were
You know, they were angry.
Like metal was supposed to
be about like being
Renegade and being like,
anti-Establishment
And-And-And, you know,
sticking it to the man.
So it was kind of ironic
that this metal band
Was suing us.
It was like metal and
like gangsta rap.
Like the two least likely
people to go after us
Were the ones who were suing us.
Napster is stealing from us.
Straight up.
And i'm gonna fight 'em
to the death.
[Loud boom]
Any time things go to
capital hill,
You know that the, the sh*t's
really hit the fan.
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