Enigma Man a Stone Age Mystery Page #4
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new species Denisovans
Denisovan DNA turns up in people
in Melanesia, Papua New
Guinea and areas like that
and appears on Australians.
The fact you've got
Denisovan DNA persisting
in modern day people means there
must have been interaction
between that kind of ancient
human and Homo sapiens
to get it in to our genome
at some point in time.
So the reason why you can have archaic
human surviving in other places too.
Since we know there was interbreeding
with ancient humans, perhaps
some of these features
are reflecting into breeding in the past.
Maybe in China, the same thing
could have been happening
with the Red Deer Cave people.
In terms of modeling, have
interbreeding happen,
I mean obviously we don't actually know
way from peaceful encounters
where they traded with each
other and exchange mates.
That's one possibility.
will run after the mates
and they will raid another
area and steal some women.
These encounters have left their mark
within us today, hidden in our genes.
There are suggestions that certainly
in the immune systems,
some of the bits of DNA
So imagine modern humans evolving in Africa
coming into new environments
with new diseases,
new pathogens and so on.
By interbreeding with the locals,
in picking up some of the
immunity which those populations
would have evolved over
hundreds of thousands of years.
Could the Red Deer Cave people
Hybrids are really complicated question.
To diagnose a hybrid, you
need probably to have DNA
from Maludong and Longlin fossil
but also you need DNA from
both of the parent specie.
So, if we assume one is
us, one is modern human.
Who's the other species?
I'm not convinced that
interbreeding has been
unequivocally established.
It's an interesting idea
compelling, maybe persuasive evidence
but it's far from open and shut.
To try to untangle the genetic origins
of the Red Deer Cave people,
Darren and Ji send samples
of the burned bones for DNA testing.
Ancient DNA science unlocked the genome
of the Denisovans from
their remains preserved
in an icy corner of Siberia
but the Red Deer Cave fossils
are a different challenge all together.
Fossil DNA is not easy to work with
because the bones have been
buried for many, many years.
So especially for this sample, they're very
nice, hot and readily humid
area so those conditions
are not good for ancient DNA storage.
Professor Su Bing is one of China's
leading geneticists.
A decade ago, he led the
team that mapped the DNA
of over 10,000 living East Asians
From this data, what we saw
is a very simple conclusion.
We all came from Africa, we
all have African ancestors.
But not all scientists accept
this genetic evidence.
There are those that promote what is known
as multiregional theory.
old members of our species
coming out of Africa, some modern humans
evolved out of Asia.
To explore this theory,
Darren and Ji traveled
Here amongst this spectacular
limestone landscape
lies Zhirendong, the mysterious
cave of the Homo sapiens.
In 2007, Professor Jin
Chang-Zhu and his team
unearthed two archaic human teeth here.
A year later, they discovered something
even more remarkable.
found to have some striking
and unexpected features.
A protruding chin is a
defining modern human feature.
When they dated the fossils,
they found they were over
100,000 years old but
the conventional theory
holds that the earliest modern
humans arrived from Africa
around 50,000 years ago.
This would mean that
modern humans were here
were supposed to be.
This is the heart of the
biggest controversy
in the science of human evolution.
The idea that modern day
Chinese are descended
from a separate evolutionary
line to the rest of the world.
In China, they believe that the Chinese
their direct ancestors
and they can see in their interpretation
a continuative evolution
in terms of morphology
and behavior from a
million years ago through
to present Chinese populations.
I gave a talk there in the 1990s
on the Out of Africa theory
and it didn't go down very
well as you can imagine
and I was told that they
knew they were evolved
from Peking man.
It was almost like an act of faith.
I think they've demonstrated
that modern humans
got to East Asia much earlier
than the genetic evidence would suggest.
I think that's very important.
Ji believes that the Zhirendong fossils
in this part of the world
evolved here in East Asia.
Whichever theory prevails,
Darren sees the find
as an important clue as to the identity
of the Red Deer Cave people.
What's impressed me about
the Zhirendong jaw
is that is does seem to
have a human like chin.
You don't see a human like chin
in the Red Deer Cave people jaws.
The Red Deer Cave people
don't look very modern
in comparison.
I think if Zhirendong do
represent an early modern
population then the Red
Deer Cave people can't be.
But the hunt for fossil DNA that could
confirm this has been unsuccessful.
Unfortunately we haven't
got any positive result.
We didn't get any DNA.
There's very little biological material
left in the bones and teeth from Maludong.
This is because they've been burned
to such high temperatures.
What it means unfortunately is
that there's really no chance
Despite the lack of DNA,
Darren is convinced
that the bones speak for themselves.
He's driven to the only conclusion
After five years of working
on this big puzzle,
this conundrum, losing sleep,
traveling to and from China
to check and recheck.
I placed these fossils into what we know,
what we understand about human evolution.
I just can't see that they're anything
other than a new species.
It's an idea bound to create shock waves
throughout the scientific world.
Science is very conservative.
So when people find new things
that don't fit into current
come up with new theories,
they're challenged, they're ridiculed.
Sometimes their careers suffer.
As soon as you make some announcement
that's unexpected, there's
always gonna be detractors.
I mean, why would there be a new species
of human surviving in mainland China
until be on the last Ice Age.
Yes, it's risky.
Of course it's risky but in a way
if you're gonna be honest
and true to science
then you've got to be
prepared to stand up and say,
"This is how I see the evidence."
It's a challenge to conventional wisdom
but then that's how science progresses,
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