Indictment: The McMartin Trial Page #5
- R
- Year:
- 1995
- 131 min
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of the people they trusted. Female reporter:
Kee McFarlane
also went on to say that the children's stories
have been remarkably consistent since the very
first allegations were made
nearly ten months ago. What is it?
What is so important? You know we have
a preliminary in two weeks. Hey, Malcolm.
Where's Judy? I thought it best that you
talked to Malcolm alone. Tell him, Malcolm. He hurt me. Hoag:
Who hurt you, Malcolm? He poked me. Hoag:
with a stick in my bottom. What's a stick, Malcolm? This is a stick. Where did it happen? In the bath. Daddy took a bath with me. Did Mommy tell you
to say bad things
about Daddy? Uh-uh. No. Why don't you, uh,
go in to your mom, hmm? Thanks, buddy. Do you really believe
this is what happened? What choice do I have? Could there be
some other explanation? Come on, Jane. Is there? Well, he filed for divorce.
Well, there it is. Judy doesn't work.
She doesn't have anything. This is her way
getting a little money. We have to file charges
against the father.
Jane... If we do that,
the defense will
kill us with it. This was the first charge
against Ray Buckey. Malcolm was with his father
reported he was molested. They'll say that's how
this whole thing started. Well, what do you
want to do then? Let the father
have visitation again? No. No, of course not. Just, uh... ...tell Judy not
to let the father see Malcolm until we can check this out.
All right? You have no idea
what we went through
to get these tapes. We have to watch
all of them here. They won't let me take them
to my office. So I need you guys
to help me out. I want you to take notes
on each child. Write down every single thing
you can remember about him or her. The first kid
we're seeing is,
uh, Jonathan Lawson. Okay. We can skip him. I came to the school
after... after he was gone. Well, I think this tape
is gonna show
that he remembers you. So let's, um, refresh your recollection,
as they say in the courtroom. I've got some really
crazy-looking dolls
to show you. These are as nutty
as anything. (woman chuckles)
Wow, that's weird. Woman:
These kinda look
like cupcakes, don't they? (Jonathan giggles)
She has a belly button. She has hair on her vagina.
(giggles) (mutters indistinctly)
Woman:
And this one... This one has a penis.(chuckles) Now, I'd like you
to look at a picture. Woman:
You know him, don't you? Remember him? Uh, yeah, I think. "I think."
Woman:
Was he a teacher when you werein school back then? Um... No, I don't
think I remember him. Look at his face. No.
Was he around,
maybe back then? No, I wasn't.
Who is she to do this? Shhh, listen. I didn't see him much.
Once or twice. Woman:
The older kids like you
have to help the little kids 'cause they're not
as smart as you. And we found out
some crummy stuff happened to these little kids. Do you think you might
be able to help us out? It didn't happen to me.
No? It didn't happen to you? Somehow I can't remember.
I'm not sure about it. Woman:
Well, sometimes some
of this stuff is really hard to talk about. And that's why we use puppets! Hi, Snake! Some of the kids told us
they played yucky games and the teachers
would touch them
in some yucky places. Did something like that
happen to Jonathan? To me it didn't. It didn't happen
to Jonathan? No, it didn't happen to me. (voices rewind) No, it didn't happen to me.
"It didn't happen to me." Do you guys remember
the tickle game? Tickle game? Woman:
Come on. Your memory
can't be that bad. All your best friends
say you played it. What's the matter, Snake?
Isn't your memory
as good as theirs? Um, I remember
the tickle game. Woman:
See? What a good memory! I thought I had a bad one. It might be better
than you thought. Maybe you could show us
how the tickle game was played. Jonathan:
We'd crawl around, and they'd try to get us. They'd go slow and... ...tickle us!
(scoffs) Woman:
Was it a naked game sometimes? They'd go like this,
and pull up my t-shirt and tickle my belly.
That's all that happened. Woman:
That's all that happened?
Yes. This kid could end up
saving your life. Woman:
Okay. You guys remember
the naked movie star game? Naked movie star game? It was sort of
a fashion show, I think. Where I'll walk across
the room.
Turn around and around? What did the grownups do? Jonathan:
I think... I'm not sure. Taking pictures? Boy, you're
really somethin'! Who was taking pictures? I'm really trying
to test your brain here. It was Ray. I know that.
(voices rewind) It was Ray. I know that.
(voices rewind) It was Ray. I know that.
Woman:
Amazing! Amazing! Amazing! Amazing! It was scary.
He told us to hide
in a tunnel under the school. When our moms and dads came,
they wouldn't see us. And we were all naked, and we had to do this dance. And Ray, he killed the horse. He hit it and it died. What did he hit it with? A baseball bat. He hit it
and the horse fell down. Glenn:
Who else was there?
The Goat Man. And then they took us
to the airport
and we flew on a plane. The airport? Didn't... Didn't you tell me it was,
uh, the car wash? Uh, it was the airport, but the plane had no windows. (door opens) You're free.
You're out on bail. Your father's waiting
to pick you up
in the parking lot. What? Right now?
Right now. Let's go. What about the others?
Are they out, too? Not Ray.
But we expected that. And your mother's lawyer
waived her right
to a speedy trial. Oh, my God.
All right. Come on. I'm going to be
on my own here again. It'll be okay, Mom.
You'll be out soon. I'll leave this comb.
Maybe you'll need it. It'll be okay. Be strong.
I love you. I don't think I can
make it here alone. What? I don't think I can
make it here on my own. Okay. Okay.
(sobbing) Okay, I'll stay with you.
I'll stay. I won't let 'em
put up bail for me and I'll just... I can do that.
I can stay. Okay? No. You go on. Hurry up, before they
change their mind. Go on. Go on! Go on. Woman:
Prisoner release here. (sighs) I'm sorry.
I thought I heard
you say thank you for getting you out.
Clearly mistaken. I can't. I can't.
I feel too guilty.
Guilty about what? About leaving
everybody behind. Today, just weeks after
new DA Ira Reiner's
taking over the reins for... Incredibly, it's now
bringing you these exclusive reports on this extraordinary...
...from the first child witness, a seven-year-old boy
named simply John Doe 7. Reporter:
Testimony is expected
to contain explicit allegations highly damaging
to the defense, and the mood here
in the courthouse is one of grim anticipation. There is no doubt
run very high indeed. Man: Here they come! Satz: ...in the whole area
of child abuse. I just hope that it doesn't
lead to hysteria and contagion. Peggy Ann:
Please, the lights
are hurting her eyes! She's got cataracts. Danny:
Hey, come on.
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