Indictment: The McMartin Trial Page #6

What are you doing? Come on, she has cataracts.

What's going on here? Hey, move that!

What are you doing?

You son of a b*tch! (grunts) No one told you

to defend the devil! Ugh!

(camera shutters clicking) Okay, you got what you need? As you can see, we've put

the press in another room while children testify. They will have to watch us

on closed-circuit TV. Hi, Sean. How old are you?

Seven. Glenn:

Do you know the difference

between the truth and a lie? Yes. Glenn:

What happens to you

when you tell a lie? Sean:

You get in big trouble. Glenn:

Now, Sean,

while you were at school, did you ever play

any naked games? Cowboys and Indians? We were the cowboys

and they were the Indians and then they would take us

and put us in jail,

and then they'd touch us. Glenn:

Where did they touch you?

Sean:
In the penis. Glenn:

Who touched you, Sean? Ray and Miss Peggy. Did you ever play

any other naked games? Alligator game. Glenn:

Could you tell us

the names of the people who played

the alligator game? I don't remember. Oh, well...

what other games did you play, Sean? Naked movie star?

That's right. Did somebody take pictures

of you during that game? Yea--

Uh... don't remember. Now, didn't...

didn't you tell me

that, uh, Miss Virginia took the pictures

during naked movie star game? Your Honor,

leading the witness.

Objection. Objection overruled. Sean?

Did Miss Virginia take the pictures while you played

the naked movie star game? Yes. Did Ray ever touch you

with anything beside his hand?

With his penis. Glenn:

Where did Ray put his penis? In my penis. Did he say, "In my penis?"

Yes. Thank you. Danny:

Good morning, Sean.

Good morning. Good morning, Snoopy.

(chuckles) I understand your dad

calls you "Haystack."

Why is that? I don't know.

Do you think it's 'cause

of that little hair that sticks out there maybe?

Yeah. (laughs) Sean, uh, your mommy took you

to a place called C.I.I. and there you met

a lady named Kee and she showed you

some pretty strange dolls. Yes. Danny:

And the lady, Kee, wanted to talk to you

about penises, didn't she?

Yes. You think that was kinda funny,

this lady you just met wanted to tell you things

like that?

Sort of. Kinda weird.

She told you she thought that Ray had touched you

on the penis, didn't she?

Yes. And you said no, didn't you?

Yes. Danny:

And she just kept askin' that

same old question, didn't she? Sean:

Yeah. And eventually, you said, "Well, yeah,

Ray touched me on the penis." Objection. Leading.

Judge:

Sustained. When you first talked

about this, Sean, you didn't remember

anybody taking pictures,

did you? No.

And then Mr. Stevens

helped you remember that Miss Virginia

took pictures.

Sean:
Yes. Danny:

And so you said yes,

Virginia did. Sean: Yes.

Danny:
And you did that

because you knew he wanted you

to say that, right?

Sean:
Yes. Danny:

And you thought if you didn't,

it would make him sad, right? Sean:

Yeah. Danny:

You're telling the story

that Kee wants you to tell. Yes. Danny: And the story

that everybody talks

to you about this case would like you to tell.

Yes. Thanks, Sean. Thank you.

And thank you, Snoopy. Court will recess

for 15 minutes. (indistinct chatter) Sean, did anybody tell you

what to say when you

were in court? No. Now, when Mr. Davis

asked you if you were saying the things

that everybody wanted you

to say, you said yes. What did you mean by that? I said it because

I know they wanted me

to tell the truth, and I would

please them that way. Thank you, Sean. Witness will step down.

Court will recess.

(gavel bangs) Think we did it or not?

It's good, a good trial. Right.

And to really

make your day, during the recess,

one of the parents

tells the press, he's found porno pictures

of the kids. Oh, no. Oh, no!

But-- but he says

he can't produce them because, listen to this,

there are four cops on the Manhattan Beach

Police Department

involved in a sex ring. What? What?!

I don't know. Man:

You told millions

of people on television that Jim here

was part of a sex ring. Now say it in front of him. Okay, you said there

were pornographic pictures. Either you give them to me,

or I'll hold you in custody

until you do. There aren't any pictures,

are there? What the hell's

the matter with you? Jim here's got

high blood pressure at it is, without you

making up something like that. Why'd you do it? We got national coverage

for an important issue affecting the lives

of innocent children. Did you ever hear

the term "the end

justifies the means"? Okay, let's strip the bed,

and check out the pillow.

I got it. Take it all off.

Check it all out.

You got it. Okay. You're not supposed

to bring anything back

from court. It was just something

my mother made. She crocheted it for me. Okay, take your clothes off,

all of 'em. Hurry up. Hurry up. Hurry up! Give it to me. You have to go

over every cavity. Okay, now... Pull your ears

towards me. Shake your hair. Pull up your stomach. Okay. Now, bend over. Pull open your vagina. Cough.

(coughs) The reason for the coughing

is they like to bring things in

stuffed up their vaginas. Guard: You're kidding.

No. Like drugs, guns. You wouldn't believe

what you can fit up there. I had one once,

brought in six packs

of cigarettes. (laughs) Can I put on my clothes? What are you doing tonight?

I don't know. I thought I'd catch

the new Clint Eastwood movie.

How about you? I might shoot some pool. I want to go home. She wouldn't even

let Dad see her naked. I can't believe

they'd do that to her. Do we have to keep lugging

this school stuff around? Can't we get rid of it? This is the sixth time

we've had to move it. (sighs) Gram? (softly)

Gram? How can you smile?

Doesn't it make you bitter? Virginia:

Of course it does. But who says

I can't be bitter and still enjoy the sight

of little kids playing? (laughs) Woman:

Where did Peggy Ann touch you on your body?

On my dick. Woman:

Did you have

to touch Peggy Ann? Boy:

Yes.

Where? Boy:

On her b*obs. Did you have to touch

any other part of her body besides her b*obs?

Her puss. Did you see Ray do anything

to Peggy Ann? He would put his dick

in her puss. Woman:

Did you see Ray do anything

to the animals at school? Boy:

He would cut the ears

off the rabbits. Woman:

Did Ray say anything while he

was doing that to the rabbits? Boy:

He said it would happen

to our parents if we told any

of our secrets. Woman:

Did the teachers

take you any other place outside of the school?

To Harry's Market. Woman:

And what happened

when you got there? They took us

in this storage room and touched us on our d*cks

and took pictures. Woman:

Did you go anyplace else

besides the market? To a church. Saint Cross Church. What happened at the church? Boy:

The took us

down the aisle, and on the altar

they put animals like birds and rabbits

and chopped them to pieces. Who is "they," Jonathan? I saw people

wearing black costumes with ropes around

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