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with spiritual sustenance?
To whom do you pray
when you need solace?
I don't need solace, sir.
I don't believe in God
and I don't believe in prayer.
I am sustained by what is real.
Praying, to me, is preposterous.
Is it now?
And yet so many millions do it.
Millions once thought
the earth was flat, sir.
Yes, that's true.
But may I ask you, Marcus,
merely out of curiosity,
how do you get by in life...
filled as life is inevitably
with trials and tribulations
lacking spiritual guidance?
I get straight A's, sir.
I didn't ask about your grades.
I know your grades.
You have every right
to be proud of them,
as I've already told you.
Well, then you know
the answer to your question
of how I get by just fine.
Well, if I may say so, it doesn't look
to me like you get along just fine.
It seems to me as soon as there's
a difference of opinion,
you pick up and leave.
Is there a problem with finding
a solution in quietly leaving?
But look
where you've wound up...
in the least desirable room
on the entire campus.
Frankly, I don't like the idea
of you up there alone.
But I did not end up there because
of lack of religious beliefs, sir,
if that is what you are
suggesting in a roundabout way.
Why is it, then?
As I explained
to you before,
the living arrangements
I was given were intolerable.
Tolerance appears to be something
of a problem for you, young man.
I've never heard that
said about me before, sir.
There appear to be several things you've
never heard about yourself before.
But before, you were living
at home,
in the bosom
of your childhood family.
Now you are living
at Winesburg as an adult,
and aside
from mastering your studies
your task is to learn
how to get along with people
and to extend tolerance to those who
may not be carbon copies of yourself.
Tolerance? How about extending
some tolerance to me, sir?
I don't mean to be brash
or insolent
but what exactly is the crime I
have committed? Here? Today?
So I've switched rooms.
Is that considered a crime
here at Winesburg?
Has anyone said
it is a crime?
You display a fondness
for dramatic exaggeration.
It doesn't serve you well.
It is a characteristic
you might want to reflect upon.
Now tell me, how do you get
along with your family?
I see from the form here,
you also have no siblings,
so it's just you
and your parents at home,
if I'm to take what you've
written here to be accurate.
Why wouldn't it
be accurate?
I was accurate when I wrote
down my father is a butcher.
He is a butcher.
It isn't I alone who would
describe him as a butcher.
He would describe
himself as a butcher.
You described him as a kosher butcher.
Which is fine.
But that's not grounds for
intimating that I've been in any way
inaccurate in filling out...
If I may interrupt, Marcus.
How do you three get along,
from your perspective?
That's the question I asked.
You, your mother, and your father:
how do you get along?
A straight answer, please.
My mother and I get along perfectly well.
We always have.
So have my father and I
for most of my life.
[inhales]
[clears throat]
From my last year
at grade school
until I moved to Winesburg
I worked part time
for him at the shop.
We were as close as
father and son could be.
Of late there's been
some strain between us.
Strain over what,
may I ask?
He's been unnecessarily
worried about my independence.
I think it has to do with many of my
cousins having died in the last war.
You say unnecessarily worried about
you because he has no reason to be?
None at all.
Is he worried, for instance,
about your inability
to adjust to your roommates
here at Winesburg?
I have not told him
about my roommates.
I did not think
it was important.
Nor is 'inability to adjust' a proper
way to describe the difficulty, sir.
I do not want to be distracted from
my studies by superfluous problems.
I wouldn't consider your having
to move out of your room
a superfluous problem,
and neither would your father, I'm sure,
if he were apprised of the situation
as he has every right to be,
by the way.
But be that as it may...
have you gone on any dates
since you've been to Winesburg?
Uh, dates?
Dates.
Uh. Yes. Yes, I have.
A few? Some? Many?
One.
Just one?
Sir! I object to being
interrogated like this!
I do not see
the purpose of it.
These are
my own private affairs,
as is my religious life and my
social life and how I conduct it.
I have broken no laws, I've
caused no one injury or harm,
and in no way have my actions
impinged on anyone's rights.
If anyone's rights have been
impinged on they are mine.
Sit down please,
and explain yourself.
attend chapel forty times
before I graduate in
order to earn a degree.
I do not see where the
college has the right
clergyman of whatever faith,
even once, or listen
to a Christian hymn
invoking the Christian deity,
given that I am an atheist
who is, to be truthful,
deeply offended by the practices
of organized religion.
I am altogether capable
of leading a moral existence
without crediting beliefs
that are impossible to
substantiate and beyond credulity.
I take it you are familiar,
Dean Caudwell,
with the writings
of Bertrand Russell.
Bertrand Russell,
the distinguished
mathematician and philosopher,
was last year's recipient
of the Nobel Prize
in Literature.
The work of literature in which
he was awarded the Nobel Prize is
his widely read essay entitled
"Why I Am Not a Christian."
Are you familiar
with this essay, sir?
Marcus, please sit down...
Sir, I was asking
if you are familiar
with this very important
essay by Bertrand Russell.
I take it
that the answer is no.
Well, I am very familiar
with this essay
because I set myself the task
of memorizing large sections of it
when I was captain
of my high school debating team.
Now, if you were
to read this essay,
and in the interest of open-mindedness
I would urge you to do so,
you would see that Bertrand
Russell, undoes with logic
that is beyond dispute
the first-cause argument,
the natural-law argument,
the argument from design,
the moral arguments
for a deity,
and the argument
for the remedying of injustice.
Having studied these arguments,
I intend to live my life
in accordance with them,
as I am sure
you would have to admit, sir,
I have every right to do.
Please sit down.
I'm sorry.
I see here that you are studying
to be a lawyer.
On the basis of this interview,
I think you are destined
to be an outstanding lawyer.
I can see you one day arguing a
case before the Supreme Court,
and winning it.
I admire your directness,
your diction,
your sentence structure,
even if I don't necessarily choose to
admire whom or what you choose to read
and the gullibility with which you
take at face value
rationalist blasphemies spouted by an
immoralist of the ilk of Bertrand Russell,
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