Inequality for All Page #4
shed workers as they automated.
And we have this romantic idea
that we can get
manufacturing back.
But you get manufacturing plants
back,
and they're filled
with robots and computers.
The old assembly line is gone.
I was one of the earliest
investors in amazon.com.
I consider amazon.com
to be one of the greatest
economic achievements
of our time
and certainly something
I'm incredibly proud of.
But make no mistake:
Amazon.com employs 60,000 people
and does $70 billion,
$80 billion in sales.
But if mom-and-pop retailers
were doing
that $70 billion or $80 billion
in sales,
it would be 60,000 people
employed doing it.
It'd be 600,000
or 800,000 or a million people
because those business models
are so much less efficient.
So Amazon created
a huge economic windfall
here in the Pacific Northwest,
but all over the country,
there are people
who are no longer employed
in selling stuff
who are not happy.
As a manager for Circuit City,
it was a look behind
the curtain, so to speak,
as a manager, to see exactly
how everything worked.
So when you got laid off,
did you see it coming,
or was it sudden?
They did several layoffs
while I was there.
People who had been there
too long:
"They're making too much money
"because they've
been there too long,
and we're gonna have to do
something to cut the payroll."
The hardest part was thinking,
"Is it gonna happen to me?"
Until I became a student,
it was pretty dicey.
I mean, it would have been
easy for me
to just fall into depression,
which happens
to a lot of people,
or go for a lower-paying job,
which would have
put me in a worse
financial situation.
Looking back on it,
you can see the pattern.
It's not as easy to see
when you're in it,
but the signs were there.
I mean, there was
a major slowdown in business,
and I think a lot of that
had to do
with things like Amazon.
Because I've been in retail
for so long,
I don't go through
the automated checkout lines.
And one of the main reasons
is because I know
that every time
I go through that,
of someone's job away.
It's not that I think
that I'm going to...
save their jobs
in the long run.
But I know
that I'm gonna slow down
the transition a little bit
so that maybe
they're gonna have
a little bit longer
to get ready for the transition.
Contrary to popular mythology,
globalization and technology
haven't really
reduced the number of jobs
available to Americans.
These transformations
have reduced their pay.
I mean, it's not just
that wages are stagnating,
but when you take
into consideration
rising costs...
the rising costs of rents
or homes,
dramatically increasing costs
of health care,
the rising costs of child care,
and also the rising costs
or higher education,
rising much faster
than inflation...
Take all of these
into consideration,
and you find
that it's much worse
than just stagnating wages.
It's basically
middle-class families,
often with two wage earners,
working harder and harder
and harder
and getting nowhere.
I work at a law firm
as a litigation assistant.
And Moises?
I work as a bus operator.
Do you know how much is
in your bank account right now?
Mine is less than 100 bucks.
So I want to say maybe $80.
Yeah, yesterday
it was only $30.
And that's with us working.
Yeah.
Car insurance, $125.
Kids' World, $150.
Rent, $1,375.
We felt like we had
to write it all down,
because how could we
not have money?
We make money.
You know, I'm working now.
We don't know how much
we're gonna be paying on that.
The Y.
This is my money that I donate.
$16 a month
to Children International.
We don't even have here
my UCSF bill.
Remember that hospital bill?
It's, like,
200 and something dollars
that's not even here
that we need to pay.
Oh, yeah.
What about savings?
We haven't been able to.
We don't have
a savings account.
- I took it off because it...
- It wasn't working.
Oh, you brought your glove.
Did you guys play baseball?
And she's been playing with you?
When she was born,
we had no money.
The refrigerator was empty.
The freezer was empty.
I said, "This is not the way
I want to raise my daughter."
- How was your day?
- Good.
I've seen single mothers
work three jobs
just to be able to pay rent.
And I didn't want that.
So I started going to school.
How do you build wealth?
Not that I want to be wealthy.
I just...
How do you do it?
How the heck
do you build wealth,
like, when you don't
have anything,
when you don't have any assets,
when you don't have nothing?
This is gonna be Mommy's office.
Look.
This is gonna be my office.
It's not my office yet,
but it's going to be my office
really soon.
Hmm?
People, I think,
would be less concerned
about inequality
of income and wealth
if everybody had a chance
to make it.
As long as there's
upward mobility,
as long as anybody
with enough guts and gumption
and hard work
can make it in America,
can move up the income ladder,
then we don't have a problem.
But as income inequality rises,
upward mobility is actually less
than it was before.
- Come on.
- You want to see the rest?
Yeah.
In the United States,
42% of kids born into poverty
will not get out.
Compare that to Denmark,
where only 25% of kids
born into poverty stay there.
Even Great Britain,
an aristocracy,
has more upward mobility
than we do.
You know,
people occasionally say to me,
"Okay, Reich, if you think
it can be done better,
"what nation does it better?
Whom should we emulate?"
And the answer is
the United States.
In the three decades
after World War II,
a period that I call
"the Great Prosperity,"
the economy boomed,
but not only
did the economy boom,
but you had very low inequality.
We made education
a national priority,
particularly higher education.
By 1940,
only 5% of adult Americans
had a four-year college degree,
but that percentage
began to explode.
The GI Bill paid college costs
for those who returned
from war,
and the subsequent expansion
of public universities
made higher education
affordable to many.
By the late '50s, we had
the best-educated workforce
of any country in the world.
We also had labor unions.
By the mid-1950s,
more than 1/3 of all workers
belonged to a union.
This gave average workers
bargaining leverage
to get a larger share
of the growing pie.
We created
the largest middle class
the world had ever seen.
And that middle class
was part of a virtuous cycle.
The wider their prosperity,
the more people were included
in that prosperity,
the more that prosperity
generated more prosperity.
Hello.
Okay, now,
they're gonna be calling in
momentarily.
From American Public Media,
this is Marketplace.
America's already
making it harder
for young people of modest means
to attend college.
41 states are cutting spending
for public higher education,
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