Interrogation Page #3

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Why should I make something up?

Why do they need a false confession?

You must understand

that it's not your business

The authorities

know what they're doing

There's a fierce class battle going on

The enemy could be lurking

where you'd least expect

We have to be on our guard

Any weapon that advances victory

is acceptable

Every one. You have to understand that

But I'm sitting in prison,

totally innocent

Why should I care about all that?

Listen, it won't always be like that

In five, ten years

when we overcome our enemies...

...our methods will change.

Then it'll be completely different

Wouldn't you like your children to live

in a different, just and safe world?

But this can't be done without martyrs.

It just can't

And would you agree to be such

a martyr and sit in prison, innocent?

I'm an American spy

A real spy?

But not subjectively

All my life

I've always been a communist

I am an objective spy

I was found out

and I confessed immediately

I don't understand what that means

It was like this.

Comrades from the Central Committee...

...asked me to take

a certain American around Poland

He pretended to be a communist

but later it turns out...

...that he was working for his intelligence

and I showed him everything

All our new projects -

steelworks, mines, airports...

He passed the information on

to Washington and I helped him to do it

But you didn't do it on purpose.

You didn't know

That's what I mean.

Subjectively I'm not a spy

But objectively I did the work of a spy

And I have to suffer

the punishment for that

Konstanty!

I think it's high time

you had a wash

Jesus, stop splashing that water.

Remember you're not alone in this cell

Wash

Please wash yourself.

Comb your hair

You know they just want you to behave

like an animal and not like a human

Get away from me!

You're behaving like they want you to

My God! My God!

A year ago I did exactly the same

Get away from me! I told you!

You've wasted all that water

Yeah! So he goes,

"You're better off selling everything...

"...the land, the cows, the horses

and we'll go to Brazil

"We'll set up home there,

have kids there...

"...because here those bastards

will take everything off you"

I'd love to go to Brazil

One guy was in France

and he didn't like the food there at all

Why?

There was no brown bread just white

stuff for breakfast. Who'd eat that?

I'd like some white bread rolls

I said, "Do you think I'd leave the land...

"...my father and his father

worked on their whole lives?

"I'm not so stupid as to let them steal

it from me." He got furious

He went to the barn.

Got drunk and didn't get up for two days

Listen

Have I told you about when we went

with Kaz Olcha to Ostroda for a show?

- No

- Well, I'll tell you

One day, suddenly, they gave us

an order to go to Ostroda for a show

Kaz Olcha, Junia,

our wardrobe person...

...and of course this is after

a performance - we got so drunk

Totally wasted.

Junia is tripping over her own legs

There's this field.

Kaz Olcha is smashed

There are tanks, cars and cannons there

So Junia, totally pissed,

says that she wants to get into a tank

She wanted to get into the tank

so I wanted to as well

We'd never been in a tank

so I get into this tank

Don't sit there on the bunk

So... where was I?

So I get into this tank and what do you

want to do? Shoot, don't you?

I was so drunk so I go, "OK let's shoot

as we're in a tank. Why not?"

So Kaz goes, "Let's load it",

and he shows us how to load it

I didn't know

you have to pull a lever or something

And so we fire a shot -

it shakes the whole training ground

We look up. An alarm has been raised -

whistles, sirens, soldiers start running...

...and getting into some lorries.

Others are getting dressed

They must have thought

some war was breaking out

Eventually we stagger out

and take a look

It turns out the round was live

and it hit the communal lavatory

Sh*t was splattered everywhere

Soldiers were running

all over the place splattered in sh*t

And getting into those lorries

Of course, Junia and I stank so badly

for two weeks...

...that we couldn't go on stage

Have you got a cigarette?

I would like to make an amendment

to my previous confession

All right

I said I slept with those men

just for the hell of it but that's not true

All of those men meant a lot to me

When I was giving those details

I forgot about the most important thing

- About love?

- Feelings

Well, apart from the pigeon bloke

because I just felt sorry for him

- You're up to something again

- No, really

So you're saying

that apart from the pigeon bloke...

...there was a bond

with all those you slept with

- They all meant a lot to you, right?

- Yes

Can you tell me how much

Olcha meant to you?

- No...

- Just a second

For example, what would you

be prepared to do for him?

I've told you everything.

Now I want to know why I was arrested

OK:

Do you know what

the highest form of punishment is?

- I know

- Are you sure?

Death

So let's say you had a choice -

Olcha or a bullet in the head

- What would you choose?

- I'd prefer to live

So, Olcha doesn't really mean

that much to you then does he?

You must understand that if you help us

we'll also help you

We can, for example,

appeal for leniency when sentencing

But sentencing for what?

You have to tell us

everything about Olcha

Who he met with, what you talked about,

down to the tiniest detail

But I only talked to him

about my personal affairs

If I'm to talk about my private matters

they won't be private any more

You've already said

how you slept with one guy after another

One ought to be consistent

But everything I've said

can't hurt anyone, at worst, me

How do you know

that what you said could hurt Olcha?

Well, I don't know how you'll use it

I promise you that

whatever you say will stay between us

- Your husband won't find out either

- Leave my husband out of this

OK, I'll be honest with you

But I also want you to be honest, OK?

OK, I've wavered a bit, but how

do I know you're telling the truth?

I give you my word

that I'll tell you the whole truth

Well, all right then

- I have your word?

- You have my word

But I warn you

that this is a matter of public interest

Olcha has been unmasked

by the security services

He's charged with

the most serious of crimes

Betrayal of his country. Spying for

Western countries - sabotage

- Kaz?

- Oh, yes

But that's impossible

- You'd think so

- But that really is impossible

He was arrested

with all his accomplices

Right! How did the plot begin?

But I'm telling you, there was no plot

We are dealing with a plot

when three people are talking in a room

When a fourth person comes in they go

quiet so those three are part of a plot

But nobody went quiet

when I entered a room

You too were part of a plot.

The same one as Olcha

What plot?

We were just a group of friends

We met up, drank vodka, told jokes.

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