Is this El Chapo?

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(typing) (writing) (digital tone) (traffic) (Spanish conversation) - [Voiceover] Sh*t! - [Voiceover] Sam! - [Voiceover] Sh*t! (motorcycles) (distant yelling) (sirens) (speaking Spanish) - We have a shootout

right now on the street here in downtown Culiacn,

or near downtown Culiacn. I'm not quite sure

what happened. We have the municipal police

and the federal police. We just heard some gunshots. This is what happens

during a cartel war; at any given moment, broad

daylight, it doesn't matter, gunfire can erupt at

any possible second. You really have to be on

alert when you're in Culiacn because of the violence,

because of the drug war that's going on right

now in the United States. It's a war on people here in

Mexico, a drug war in the USA. - We're on the streets of downtown Culiacn,

Sinaloa, Mexico. It's a very quiet Thursday

night in May of 2014. This city is the

homebase of the largest and most powerful drug

organization in the world, the Sinaloa cartel. And this city was rocked

in February of 2014, when their hero, their

son, was taken down. One report has it that El

Chapo Guzmn is responsible for about 80 thousand

dead Mexicans. [Female Reporter] A senior

US law enforcement official tells us it was a

joint operation. In Mexico's biggest border

city, nobody is surprised the US played a key role in Joaqun "Chapo"

Guzmn's capture. - They had to work with Mexico, because that's only way

they gonna catch him. - They tracked him from the

Sinaloa cartel's stronghold, Culiacn, to the

resort city, Mazatlan, and surprised the

kingpin named "Shorty" as his beauty queen wife

was cooking breakfast. The DEA, Homeland

Security investigations, and US marshal service

provided critical information to pinpoint the location. We've been told by a senior

US law enforcement official who has knowledge of the joint

operation, that Mexico gave the Americans permission

to operate in the country, but also set a limited

time frame:
about a month. As the deadline was about

to expire, Mexican marines closed in on Chapo. - Tonight we're getting a new

look at where El Chapo was staying when he was caught. This is the Miramar

condos in Mazatln, you can see there's a

nice view from the rooms, but were they the

digs of a billionaire? Hardly. We checked it out on travel

websites, and condos here rent for as low as $89

during the slow season. - [Female Reporter] Across

Mexico, Chapo's capture is front-page news, and Jurez

people can hardly believe the most-wanted cartel

leader is in custody. Guzmn has waged a bloody

battle against rival cartels to control nearly every

key smuggling route. In the border city, Jurez,

alone, the death tole: 10 thousand people in the

span of about five years. - [Male Reporter] The

FBI confirms the majority of drug loads arriving from

Jurez now belong to El Chapo. Forbes magazine put Guzmn on

its annual billionaires list. - [Female Reporter] Guzmn

is accused of leading the powerful Sinaloa drug

cartel, an empire that stretches throughout North America

and reaches as far away as Europe and Australia. - [Voiceover] How does a

billionaire get caught, under the most

ordinary circumstance? A man with so much power, and

who supposedly has 200 armed guards surrounding him at all

times, how does he get caught so easily at the

Miramar condominiums? - [Charlie] I continued

my research at the University of

Texas at El Paso. I was curious if

Americans believed whether it was the

real Chapo Guzmn. - You know what, it's

really hard to tell. I mean I would like to think so. I have faith, I have

trust in our government that they did what they

could to capture him. - I think that they have

the real person in custody, because it would be

a huge embarrassment to the United States and

to the government of Mexico if they didn't, and the

real Chapo Guzmn emerged. - If it were the real Chapo

Guzmn, I'm thinking he would be dead by now, actually. I don't think they'd

take him, and without any type of resistance from him

or the people around him. - Not really, but if it is

him, it's just a public stunt, you know, it's to make the

new presidency look good. You know, if I can be able

to capture this drug lord, I can do anything. So I don't think it is

him, but if it is him, it's just for that. - [Charlie] Do you think

it's the real Chapo Guzmn they have in custody? - Yes, I do, because President

Enrique Pea Nieto of Mexico has been bragging about how

he's lessening the violence of the drug war, and so he

wants good public relations, he wants to catch a

top drug lord to prove to the United States

and the Mexican people that he's actually

winning the war against cartels in Mexico. - [Charlie] A lot of people in

El Paso don't think it's him. What's your reaction to that? - My reaction to that is that

it's typical of the attitude of many people that are

connected to Mexico, that they don't trust

their government, they don't trust

the authorities, and they don't believe

the official version. In this particular case, I

think the official version is true, because I think

the Mexican president and the government has a

vested interest in catching a figurehead like Chapo

Guzmn that they can parade in public and say that

they're doing a great job and fighting crime in Mexico. But most Mexican people do

not believe in their leaders and their government,

and that's why there's so much distrust of

this capture of El Chapo. - [Charlie] What percentage

of Mexico do you think likes Chapo Guzmn, or

even loves Chapo Guzmn? - That's a good question. I do think that because of

the nature of the injustices of Mexican society,

the inequalities, that Robin Hood

type social bandits, like Chapo Guzmn in a sense is, sometimes have a lot of support, especially in regional

areas like Sinaloa, where they provide a lot of jobs and revenue for local people. And so many people in a place

like Sinaloa may believe more in El Chapo

Guzmn than they do in the actual

president of Mexico. - My family in Jurez, they

talk bad about the cartels and El Chapo, and my family

who lives in Culiacn, they're singing praises to them. And to me, it's like,

their base is there, and where they go to

do their dirty deeds are over near the border. And that's why we get

to see more violence. To me, that's what I believe. - [Voiceover] Four

days after his arrest, the people of Sinaloa

made their point. - [Charlie] Despite being

responsible for reportedly 80 thousand dead Mexicans, the man is loved

by so many people. Why is that? I interviewed renowned author,

Javier Valdez Crdenas, who has received several

international awards for his writing on drug

trafficking and organized crime. - [Charlie] In Mexico, cartel

leaders are revered, feared, loved, and respected, not

because they kill people, but for other reasons. One example is Jess Malverde. (Mexican folk music) (happy parade music) (cheering crowd) (gunshots) (pop music) - [Voiceover] A lot of

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