Is this El Chapo? Page #2

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Mexican people blame former president, Felipe Caldern,

for the spike in violence. Just 10 days into

his campaign in 2006, Caldern declared war

on the drug cartels, unleashing the federal

army and the federal police into the trouble

spots of Mexico. Unfortunately, these two groups, rather than quell the violence,

may have aggravated it. (sirens) (gunshots) (men speaking Spanish) - [Charlie] Back in Culiacn,

we interviewed the editor of Noroeste, the major newspaper

there, Francisco Cuamea. - This is a very mysterious war. We're not exactly

sure who's in charge, there's a state of paranoia,

a state of distrust. Are the police killers? Politicians? Your neighbor? We're not exactly sure

who's who in Mexico, because the corruption

level runs so deep. What we do know is over

100 thousand Mexican people have been slaughtered,

and 95% of those murders are not resolved. 27 thousand have gone missing. The next three scenes are

perhaps the most powerful during the drug war. If everybody in the United

States knew about these moments, perhaps there would've been a

movement from Mexico by now. (gunshots) (applause) (cheering) (crowd chanting "Chapo") - [Charlie] The reported

arrest of Chapo Guzmn has not appeared to help

the average Mexican citizen. Was Chapo Mexico's economy? Who stands to benefit

from his arrest? Could it be current

president, Enrique Pea Nieto? - My name is Anabel Hernndez. I am Mexican

investigative journalist. I have been investigating

the Sinaloa cartel about nine years. The war against the

drugs doesn't exist in Mexico, and

neither in the US. Really, I think that the

governments don't want to fight that issue, because it's a

huge business for everyone. In this fake war

against the drugs, the society is the victim. My thoughts about journalists

changed definitively when my father was killed, because I really think that

the corruption, the impunity, the abuse of the power,

the abuse of the police, is the most important

problem in Mexico. And since my father was

killed, I start to investigate and fight against the

corruption as a journalist. I have met in these years,

to many people that is very close to him, many

people that used to watch him and met him, and the members

of the Sinaloa cartel really don't believe

that he could be alone, just with his wife and his kids. It's unbelievable. - [Charlie] Do you think

that's Chapo Guzmn that they have in

custody right now? - I don't know it. I think that what we are leaving

in Mexico is a war between the cartels, and that the

Mexican government took one part in that war, they start to

protect the Sinaloa cartel, and use the power

of the government to fight against other cartels. That's what happened in all

the six years of the government of Felipe Caldern,

and I have to say that now it's happening again. - [Charlie] So if you're saying

Pea Nieto was protecting the Sinaloa cartel, how

did Chapo get arrested? - Well that is a huge question. It's my question. I'm still asking to

myself the same thing. (dance music) - Leading up to his

arrest, there were reports that Chapo Guzmn was

hiding in this very city, going from residence

to residence. He was being watched

closely, monitored by the Mexican marines, US DEA

and Intelligence, and finally, finally, after 13

years on the run, he was arrested in Mazatlan, and that's where we're

gonna be heading next. (happy music) We were accompanied by Jos, a freelance

photographer journalist. - We're down here on the

boardwalk in Mazatlan. We're just a few miles from

where the biggest drug lord in the world was taken down. This is just a beautiful,

beautiful coastline. Just a wonderful city to visit. A lot US tourists come here,

and they have a great time. - [Charlie] Back

in El Paso, Texas, I interviewed border scholar,

Diana Washington Valdez. - No one in Mexico can

protect you, and that's true. I myself have been threatened

there, I've had a grandfather who was assassinated

politically, and his murder was unsolved. - How does a man with so

much money and power and, supposedly, 200-300 armed

guards standing around him, get caught under

the most ordinary

circumstance in Mazatlan? - Well now, that is a very

good question because, then again, we enter into

this whole terrain of was this an arranged arrest,

or was this really something that caught Chapo

Guzmn off guard? Probably an arranged arrest, because everything

points to that, and we get the feeling that

the Mexican authorities, under pressure from

the United States, advance to Chapo Guzmn, "Look, you need to be captured;

you're either going to be "killed, or you're

going to be arrested. "However you wanna

do it, it's over." And the biggest circumstantial

evidence for that is the fact that his 300-plus man

security guard detail was nowhere present

when he was arrested, and he did not put up a fight. People closest to

him, it was like they were expecting

to be picked up. - Lot of people ask, will

this affect the drug war in some way? As long as the United States

keeps consuming illegal drugs, I don't think this

changes anything. What's your take on that? - Well, no, because even since

Chapo Guzmn was arrested, we've continued to have,

weekly, major drug loads being seized at the border,

and these are the drugs that are being seized. We've had heroin,

cocaine, marijuana, the flow of the drugs

continues uninterrupted. - So the odds of Sinaloa

cartel boss El Chapo Guzmn facing true justice

in Mexico are slim. - It is very likely that

Guzmn will be extradited to the United States. - [Reporter] Wonder whether

their government will be the one to prosecute him, or

if he'll stand trial in the US. - Phil, P-H-I-L,

J-O-R-D-A-N, former director of the El Paso

Intelligence Center, not speaking on

behalf of the DEA. I don't speak for them, I never

pretended to speak for DEA, I just speak for my experience. Well, first of all, we never

had a war on drugs, okay? I know that Nixon came

up with that term. I had a guy that used to

work here for me, in Dallas, as my number two man. And he accepted a promotion

to Washington, so then he was in a higher type position. He says, "Phil, you

know, if we wanted to, "we could win this war

on drugs overnight." To those of us that are retired, or the people that are

still in law enforcement, it's very hard to

accept the deception that's been caused by

this administration. If you connect all

the significant

indictments we've had in El Paso, whether it's

[Spanish names], whatever, my answer would have to be,

yeah, it was retaliation. Now the FBI said they were

not gonna get involved because it involved

a teenage murderer. The kid was 13 years old

when he shot my brother. DEA headquarters,

they called and said, "Do not use DEA

resources to investigate "your brother's murder,"

even though there was a significant drug

connection there. Corruption is on both

sides of the border. You will no longer ever

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