Is this El Chapo? Page #3

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hear me say that Mexico has a worse corruption problem

than the United States. If the truth hurts, so be it. We have not lifted one finger

to get the biggest Corleone of the world, El Chapo Guzmn,

in getting him over here. Since day one, we should've

had extradition papers on the desk of the

Attorney General of Mexico. Guzmn, when he was

a lower-level punk with the Sinaloa cartel,

he was there in the room when Kiki Camarena, our

agent, was murdered, and he was responsible,

according to three witnesses that used to be with the DFS, he was responsible for

kidnapping Kiki's pilot. No one has moved forward to

indict, not that he needs any more indictments, but I

would definitely indict him on the fact that he was there when Kiki Camarena was murdered. (crowd cheering) - You have to understand

that El Chapo Guzmn wasn't as powerful as the

Mexican government said. The power of El Chapo Guzmn is the protection

of the government. The real power of the Sinaloa

cartel, other than guns, is the protection of

the federal government. Of course, this business

works because, here in USA, you also have a huge corruption. Most exist, huge corruption,

in the border patrol, in the DEA, in the

police in many cities. Because this international

trade just cannot happen without the knowledge

of many other members of this government. - [Charlie] We took a trip

to Badiraguato, Chapo's home territory, to meet their

mayor, Mario Valenzuela. - It was time to head into

Chapo's hometown of La Tuna. As you enter the

village of La Tuna, you cannot miss this sign. It's written by Chapo

Guzmn's mother. We just drove three and a

half hours from Badiraguato. We're just minutes away now

from the town of La Tuna. You can see it over

my left shoulder. The red house right there is

Chapo Guzmn's mom's house. The left of the red house,

that's Chapo Guzmn's house. Apparently, the Sinaloa

cartel watches every car that comes up this way,

just to make sure that there's no false moves or some

ominous situation developing. Okay, we've reached the

house of Chapo Guzmn's mom. Hola! Hola? It's locked. - This is a nice house,

considering that we are in the middle of nowhere. - Yep. - The distance between

the states of Chihuahua, Durango, and Sinaloa. - The golden triangle. - Yeah. - Do you sense a

tunnel in this house? - No, but I will

mind that it exists. - The mayor of

Badiraguato told me that this is Chapo

Guzmn's house; it's next door to his

mother's house, and, from the looks of it,

there's nobody here, this gate here's locked. If Chapo Guzmn is indeed

the man in custody, well, obviously he

would not be here. If it's an impostor in prison, I guess there's a

possibility that he's here, but right now there's

nobody in the house, the gate is locked, and

neither him nor his mom is in La Tuna during

filming today. This angle, you can

certainly see how expensive this residence would be. From the other angle,

you really couldn't tell, but this angle's very revealing. Not to mention the

incredible scenic view here that Mr Guzmn had

while he was here. Chapo Guzmn's house,

Chapo's house is right here. And then we have

this house here. What a marked difference in

terms of wealth, money value. Can never quite tell what

a neighborhood looks like. Look at these individual

houses, see how it kinda stacks up

against the other. Hola! Hola? Nobody's home. I hear a television set,

but I don't see anybody. Okay. This does have a very

neighborhood feel to it, Latina. Lot of people are friendly,

they say hello, we've seen a lot of kids walk by,

and it seems like a very, very friendly,

small neighborhood. - Right. - And you wouldn't think

that the biggest drug lord would live here, or his

mother would live here. - Yeah, but they know who

they belong to. [Mumbles] - If you go to prison in Mexico, that doesn't mean your

organization stops. It just means that you

have a new office, and, as we sit here in this house, I can guarantee you that

when Chapo Guzmn finishes refurnishing, he'll

have better facilities than what you'll see here. Plus, he'll have his

wife, his mother, his paramours, come

over and visit. Plus, the business

will continue, I mean, nothing has stopped,

and anybody that thinks that he's incarcerated and

he's no longer involved, then they're smoking something,

because that's not true. - The big business

is not in Mexico. The big business is here, in US. That's why the

Sinaloa cartel moves thousands of millions of

dollars through the US bank. Bank of America, Wells

Fargo, HSBC, as we know in many court documents

that these banks used to launder the money of the

Sinaloa cartel, we can tell. But I haven't heard about this

operation, huge operation, to break the business

to the Sinaloa cartel. We just know that

one man is in jail. - [Charlie] If you had one

question for Chapo Guzmn, what would that be?

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