Mommy Dead and Dearest Page #6

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but, I mean, it's not like

I ever had a boyfriend before,

so I really didn't know

what was a normal relationship.

How don't know how much

she told you about me, but...

Have you been diagnosed with that?

I probably should be diagnosed with it

because it-- it happens--

the thing is, I used to take

a medication.

I used to hear voices in my head.

Then it went away.

And then somehow it's a part of myself.

Okay.

Does Gypsy know that?

- Yes. She does know that.

- Okay.

His multiple personalities

would come out,

and he had talked to me one day

and he was just like, "You know,

I would like

my other personalities to

have a girlfriend."

So I made up some

individual personalities

to match his other personalities.

Godejohn:
One side of her is named Kitty.

It's like a little girl inside of her.

We had another one called Candy.

She has an evil side of herself as well.

She used to call her Ruby.

Gypsy:
It was deaf, dumb, blind love.

And sometimes, it's a big crazy love.

Dean:
One of the most interesting

things about this case

is that no matter how much control

you have over an individual,

you can't stop adolescent sexuality

from blossoming.

Her whole life,

this had been a subject that was

forbidden to her,

and, ultimately,

that turned into a really

destructive force.

Gypsy:
Probably about a year

into our relationship,

I just couldn't lie to him anymore.

And I just told him everything.

Why did nobody know she could walk?

Her mom wanted everyone to think

that she was, like, 16 the entire time.

So, yeah, she felt kind of trapped

on a wheelchair

when I actually was trying

to encourage her

to be able to walk

more and more and more.

Gypsy:
It really didn't come up,

like, "I want you to kill her."

But he had said,

"I'll protect you from anybody."

And I said, "Anybody?"

And he said, "Yeah."

And I said, "Even my mom?"

And he said, "Yeah."

And that's where it kind of developed

from there on.

We'd call it "plan B."

But we always pushed it back.

You know, it was just a thought.

It was never reality.

We'll consider other options.

We had planned a meeting at

a movie theater.

I and my mom was going

to go see "Cinderella,"

the live-action version

of "Cinderella,"

and I was like, "This is a perfect time

for us to meet.

I'll buy your ticket, and you

come to the movie theater.

We'll meet like we're just

meeting as new friends,

and it's going to be perfect."

Godejohn:
She wanted to have sex

with me, so I did.

Officer:
Okay, she wanted

to have sex with you?

- Yes.

- Wow, did her mom know?

Um, we kept it from her mom.

Okay. Where did you have sex at

in the theater?

- It was in the bathroom.

- Okay.

In the girls' bathroom

or boys' bathroom?

She just took me in the boys' bathroom.

I didn't have any choice.

We went right into the boys' bathroom.

She was okay with it.

Okay, okay.

And then what happened after

you guys had sex in the theater?

We went to our movie and watched it.

They're all looking at you.

Believe me,

they are all looking at you.

I don't know what it was,

but, apparently,

the night got ruined in some way.

I couldn't--

I was trying to understand

what was going on with her mom.

She despised him.

She was like, "He's creepy.

He's weird.

He's coming to see a kids' movie

alone by himself."

And now looking back on it,

yeah, it is weird.

We were the only people at the movies,

and he didn't have a kid with him

or a girlfriend or nothing.

He's just this guy going to see

this chick movie.

Carr:
Couldn't you have said

that you have a friend

and you want to introduce them?

I wouldn't have had no way

to meet him, you know?

I can't say I met him online or...

She's-- she was all the time with me,

so there would be no other time

to meet him.

Once all of those plans seemed

to fall apart,

I just got desperate.

Gypsy:
He took a Greyhound bus.

I managed to scrape up enough money

to pay for him a ticket.

And the next day, we went to

the grocery store,

came back home.

She went to sleep very, very late,

and I was up texting Nick.

(voice breaking)

We painted each other's nails.

And I acted like everything was fine.

We had just recently got into

an argument,

and we had made up.

And I said I was going to be

a good girl.

And then she went to sleep

because I hurt her feelings or something.

She said, "I'm starting to

feel more relaxed.

Don't hurt me."

The last words she said to me was

"don't hurt me."

I went into the bathroom.

I got kind of in a fetal position

and I covered my ears.

And I heard my mom wake up.

And then she sounded startled.

And there was some noises

that I can't make out,

and I heard her say my name

a couple times.

And she said, "Help me."

And then there was just silence.

Carr:
Did she scream?

Yeah.

Dean:
This is about as clear

a premeditated murder

as I've ever seen.

It's brutal.

And I think it would be

very hard for anybody

to not have a moment

of being taken aback.

- Did you have sex with Dee Dee?

- No.

You didn't stick your penis

anywhere on her?

- Nope.

- Are you sure?

- Yep.

- Positive?

- I'm 100% positive.

- Okay.

Did you stick your penis in her mouth?

- Nope.

- Okay.

Did your penis touch anywhere on

Dee Dee's body?

- Nope.

- Okay.

Did your mouth touch anywhere on

Dee Dee's body?

- My mouth? No.

- Okay.

- You didn't kiss her or...

- Nope.

- ...lick her or anything like that?

- Nope.

Okay. What do you think about people

that have sex with dead bodies?

I mean, it's quite disturbing, honestly.

Okay, that's-- that would bother you?

Yeah. I don't like necrophilia.

Okay, because I think one of the things

that she might have said

was that you had mentioned

that you'd like to rape her mom.

- Yeah, at one point, I was

thinking about it.

- Okay.

He had wanted to rape my mother.

That's what he wanted to do.

He was like, "I'm going to kill her,

but I'm going to do it my way,

and I'm going to rape her."

So what I did was I made

a deal with him.

I'd let him rape me, and--

and then he wouldn't--

he wouldn't do that to my mom.

- So you guys have sex.

- Yes.

And what kind of sex?

What is sex like to you?

Well, to me, the kind of sex

that it was

was pretty much kind of con-- consensual?

Is that the word I'm looking for?

Officer:
Like, are you biting her?

Are you punching her?

Godejohn:
No, no, I would never

lay my hands on her.

I didn't even bite her at all, actually.

Not for a long time, that is.

The very first time, she whispered

in my ear

that that was a turn-on of hers,

is biting.

- I bit her twice.

- Okay.

The first time I can't remember.

The second time I remember,

because I bit her a lot harder.

However, she seemed to still enjoy it

even though it was really hard.

Gypsy:
Technically, once we got

to that point,

I screamed for him to stop,

and he didn't.

So I don't consider it to be consensual.

Okay, all right.

Is there a reason you

didn't feel pleasure?

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