Outrage Page #7

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Apparently, they did bump.

Let me be clear:

I am not gay.

I never have been gay.

HE DOESN'T THINK HE'S GAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

HE'S NOT GAY.

MAYBE HE'S HOMOSEXUAL

OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.

NOT "GAY" AS IN IDENTIFIED

POLITICALLY WITH OUR TRIBE.

WHO KNOWS IF LARRY CRAIG

IS GAY OR NOT?

BUT WHATEVER HE IS,

IT'S POSSIBLE THA HE'S ACTUALLY PART OF US.

WE DON'T WANT HIM,

BUT IT'S POSSIBLE

HE'S ACTUALLY PAR OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK THERE ARE A LO OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY

IN HIS GENERATION--

AND IT'S STILL POSSIBLE

IN YOUNGER GENERATIONS--

FOR PEOPLE TO BE

SO TERRIFIED INTERNALLY

OF THEIR OWN:

SEXUAL ORIENTATION

THAT THEY LITERALLY JUS SUPPRESS IT TO SUCH AN EXTENT,

THAT THEY CAN'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE

IT WHILE ACTING AS IT.

Interviewer:

ARE YOU TECHNICALLY

NOT A HOMOSEXUAL?

IS IT POSSIBLE:

YOU'RE BISEXUAL?

IT'S NO TO BOTH.

THE OTHER QUESTION

IS DO YOU THINK:

IT WOULD BE SOMETHING

THAT WOULD BE AWFUL?

IN OTHER WORDS,

DO YOU VIEW IT AS SOMETHING

THAT WOULD BE AWFUL

TO HAVE TO ADMI THAT YOU WERE GAY?

I DON'T AGREE

WITH THE LIFESTYLE.

AND I'VE SAID SO

BY MY VOTES OVER THE YEARS.

Matthew Weissman:

I THINK THAT FOR A LO OF GAY PEOPLE

WHO MAY HARBOR SOME

VERY, VERY DEEP

INTERNALIZED HOMOPHOBIA,

ONE OF THE WAYS:

THAT THEY FEEL BETTER

ABOUT THEMSELVES

IS BY ALIGNING THEMSELVES

WITH THE FORCES:

THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY WAN TO DO HARM TO THEM.

Signorile:

AS A TEENAGER,

I WAS LABELED A FAG.

AND WHAT I WOULD DO

IN ORDER TO BATTLE THA AND FIGHT THA WAS I WOULD JOIN UP

WITH THE OTHER GUYS

WHO WOULD BASH:

OTHER GAY BOYS:

TO PROVE THA "HEY, I'M NOT A FAG.

I'LL EVEN BEAT UP ONE."

AND THAT, GOING BACK,

IS REALLY WHAT WE SEE TODAY

IN SO MANY PEOPLE

WHO ARE IN CONGRESS

VOTING AGAINST GAY PEOPLE.

IT'S THE SAME THING

I WAS DOING AS A TEENAGER.

THEY ARE BASHING

OTHER GAY PEOPLE

IN ORDER TO PROVE

THAT THEY'RE NOT GAY.

I'VE NEVER SEEN

ANYTHING IN HISTORY

THAT-- WHERE DEEPLY ANTI-

OR HOMOPHOBIC ACTIVITIES

HAVEN'T BEEN AT SOME LEVEL

PERPETUATED OR FOSTERED

BY PEOPLE WHO WERE GAY.

LOOK AT McCARTHYISM

AND THE WITCH HUNTS--

LED BY A CLOSETED GAY:

ROY COHN, A TRUE EVIL BASTARD.

Gross:

THE TARGET GROUPS

OF WITCH HUNTS:

AND PROSECUTION:

WERE COMMUNISTS:

AND QUEERS.

ROY COHN SUPPORTED LOTS

OF REALLY DREADFUL PEOPLE

WHO WERE COMPLETELY

HOMOPHOBIC,

AND IN SOME WAYS

WAS HIMSELF HOMOPHOBIC.

HE HAD A LO OF NEGATIVE FEELINGS

ABOUT OUT GAY PEOPLE.

ROY COHN IS NOT A HOMOSEXUAL.

ROY COHN IS:

A HETEROSEXUAL MAN, HENRY,

WHO FUCKS AROUND WITH GUYS.

I HAD TO TAKE:

MY BEST SHO AT TRYING TO FIGURE OU HOW THAT COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

IS NAVIGATED:

INSIDE OF SOMEBODY.

AND I FEEL LIKE I DID

A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF IT.

I MEAN, THE SCENE

THAT EVERYBODY LOVES BEST IS

WHEN HE'S DIAGNOSED WITH AIDS

AND HE SAYS TO HIS DOCTOR,

"I'M NOT A GAY MAN."

NOW TO SOMEONE WHO

DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THIS,

HOMOSEXUAL IS WHAT I AM

BECAUSE I HAVE SEX WITH MEN,

BUT REALLY THIS IS WRONG.

HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT MEN

WHO SLEEP WITH OTHER MEN.

HOMOSEXUALS ARE MEN

WHO IN 15 YEARS OF TRYING

CANNOT PASS A PISSAN ANTIDISCRIMINATION BILL

THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.

HOMOSEXUALS ARE MEN

WHO KNOW NOBODY:

AND WHO NOBODY KNOWS,

WHO HAVE ZERO CLOUT.

THAT RATIONALE GOES

SOMETHING LIKE THIS--

IT TOOK ME AWHILE

TO FIGURE IT OUT--

BUT IT WAS SORT OF LIKE,

"RICH, YOU ARE A WEAK GAY

BECAUSE YOU CAME OUT.

I AM A STRONGER PERSON

BECAUSE I REMAIN

NOT PART OF A GAY

LIBERAL COMMUNITY.

I AM STILL:

A CONSERVATIVE.

I AM EVERYTHING I WANT.

I DON'T PUSH MY AGENDA

ON ANYONE.

STRAIGHTS DON'T PUSH

THEIR SEXUAL LIVES.

WHY SHOULD WE?"

AND IT'S VERY--

I'VE HEARD THIS

A MILLION TIMES,

AND IT'S VERY WARPED.

BUT IT WAS SORT OF LIKE,

"YOU COULDN'T HAVE THE STAMINA

TO STAY IN THE CLOSET."

THEY'RE VERY CAREFUL.

IT'S LIKE A BROADWAY SHOW.

POLITICS IS LIKE

A BROADWAY SHOW TO THEM

IN THAT EVERYTHING IS STAGED,

EVERYTHING IS PLANNED,

EVERY WORD THAT COMES OU OF SOMEBODY'S MOUTH

IS SCRIPTED.

Today is a special day

in my life.

It's not just

Valentine's Day.

It happens to be

the anniversary of

the first date

I had with my wife

Suzanne.

Am I a romantic?

Well, maybe just a little bit.

Reporter:

Even after the Craigs

got married

and he adopted

her three children

from a previous marriage,

the rumors about

her husband persisted.

THEY WERE SAYING

THAT IT WAS A MARRIAGE

OF CONVENIENCE.

TO COVER:

A GAY LIFESTYLE?

OH, GIVE ME A BREAK.

McFarlane:

I KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE

TO SAY IN PUBLIC

AND I ACTUALLY:

KIND OF ADMIRE 'EM

FOR BEING ABLE TO GIVE

THAT PERFORMANCE.

I'M SURE I COULDN'T.

UH, BUT THAT'S

SOME WEIRD SH*T.

PEOPLE KNOW ME:

AND KNOW THAT I:

WOULD NEVER DO THAT.

THAT'S ALMOS LIKE SELLING YOUR SOUL

FOR SOMETHING.NO!

Catania:

WHERE DO YOU FIND

THE SPOUSES:

OF THESE PEOPLE:

WHO STICK WITH THEM?

I MEAN, THAT IS SO BIZARRE.

HOW DO YOU STAND NEX TO YOUR HUSBAND

AFTER HE'S BEEN

IN A STALL?

I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE

BEEN GOING TO--

I'D HAVE HEADED TO A SHOWER

FOR A "SILKWOOD" SCRUBDOWN

OR CERTAINLY:

TO AN STD CLINIC.

I WOULDN'T BE

AT THE WHISTLE-STOP CAFE

STANDING BY HIM.

IS SHE INSANE?

WHAT INTERESTS ME MORE

AND I THINK WHAT IS MORE COMMON

ARE THESE STRAIGHT WOMEN

WHO ARE MARRIED:

TO CLOSETED GAY MEN

WHO DON'T KNOW.

I engaged in an adult

consensual affair

with another man

which violates

my bonds of matrimony.

I DATED JIM FOR FOUR YEARS

BEFORE WE WERE MARRIED,

SO I THOUGHT I KNEW HIM.

PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY,

"OH, THERE HAD TO BE SIGNS."

I HAD TO KNOW THIS WAS

AN ARRANGED MARRIAGE.

OUR SEX LIFE,

OUR RELATIONSHIP--

THERE WAS NOTHING--

OUR INTIMACY--

THERE WAS NOTHING TO INDICATE

THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM.

I HAD NEVER:

BEEN MARRIED BEFORE

SO I COULDN'T COMPARE I TO ANOTHER MARRIAGE.

BUT FROM TALKING

TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY,

IT WAS A NORMAL:

RELATIONSHIP.

James McGreevy:

IF YOU'RE KEEPING

A DOUBLE LEDGER:

FROM THE SECOND:

OF YOUR MORNING BREATH

TO THE TIME:

YOU GO TO BED AT NIGHT,

IT'S LIKE A BAD

"STAR TREK" EPISODE--

YOU HAVE TO DISCERN

WHICH FOO IS IN WHICH UNIVERSE

AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

YOU'RE PLAYING

IN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE,

BUT IT'S NOT INTEGRATED,

IT'S NOT HONEST,

IT'S NOT WHOLESOME

AND IT'S NOT TRANSPARENT.

Dina McGreevy:

NONE OF THAT WAS REAL.

NONE OF THOSE FEELINGS

OF THOSE EMOTIONS

WERE REAL:

FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE.

IT WAS ALL AN ACT.

WHAT PART OF MY LIFE

AND MY MARRIAGE WAS REAL?

WAS THAT TRIP REAL?

WAS THAT VACATION REAL?

WHAT ABOUT I WAS AUTHENTIC?

IF YOUR HUSBAND LEAVES YOU

FOR ANOTHER WOMAN

OR IF YOUR WIFE LEAVES YOU

FOR ANOTHER MAN,

AT SOME POINT YOU HAD

FEELINGS FOR EACH OTHER

SO AT SOME POIN THERE WAS LOVE.

IN MY CASE, I DON'T THINK

HE EVER FELT THAT FOR ME.

James McGreevy:

THERE WERE MOMENTS OF PASSION,

BUT AT THAT POINT,

I WASN'T READY TO ACCEP EVEN WHO AND WHAT I AM.

SO TO BE TOTALLY

OPEN WITH HER,

I WOULD HAVE HAD

TO ACCEPT MYSELF

AND THEN SHARE I WITH SOMEBODY I LOVED.

TO A CERTAIN POIN THEY ARE THE VICTIM,

BUT THEY MADE:

THEIR OWN CHOICES

ABOUT HOW THEY WERE GONNA

LIVE THEIR LIVES.

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