Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory Page #10

So thank you

very much.

( Cheering, applause )

Well, Kellys court

is back in session.

On the docket today-

Meet terry Hobbs.

This man sued the Dixie chicks

for defamation.

Why?

Natalie Maines has been

very vocal about this case,

Saying that new d. N.A.

Testing would prove

Hobbs was involved

in his own stepson's death.

Woman:

raise your right hand.

Do you swear to tell

the truth, the whole truth,

- And nothing but the truth,

so help you god? - I do.

Man:
Mr. Hobbs,

could you tell

The ladies and gentlemen of

the jury why you sued my client?

For her statements

against me

That she made

on the internet.

What do you hope to get

out of the lawsuit?

Justice.

- How do you define justice?

- In a court of law.

- You want money, don't you?

- I don't want-

I want justice

as the courts deem.

An apology?

Is that enough?

Whatever the courts

decide.

No, Im not asking what-

I'm asking what you want

To get out of this

lawsuit, Mr. Hobbs.

If I would sit here,

to be honest-

That's what I want. I want

you to be totally honest.

I would sit here and say

Id like to see

The Dixie chicks

humiliated

Like they have

caused me.

I think that's

a little bit fair.

Woman:
Mr. Hobbs,

Im gonna have to

Go into some

material now

That may be

sensitive.

And I want you to know

that Im not trying

To make you uncomfortable

or embarrass you.

It's just the fact that you've

placed your reputation in issue

By bringing

this lawsuit.

It is your testimony that

you are not a violent man.

Correct.

- And you do not fly into rages.

- Correct.

Female reporter:

pam Hobbs says last weekend

Her husband terry

beat her up

At their home

in Memphis.

When pam's father and brother

heard she'd been beaten,

They went

to check on her.

He started telling me

it was none of my business,

And then naturally

I just got more upset

And started

hitting him.

And I took him

to the ground.

And the next thing I know,

he shot me.

Female reporter:
terry

Hobbs faces assault charges

And he is now

in a Memphis jail.

Woman:
you did backhand pam Hobbs

The night that you ended up

shooting her brother, correct?

- Okay.

- Is that correct?

( Laughs )

yeah, all right.

- Is that funny?

- Well, it's-

You get tired of talking

about it after a while.

Well, she had been

provoking me

For three days

over one simple woman.

- She was asking for it?

- You might ask her.

Did you ever vow to get revenge

on pam for kissing another man?

Never.

Did pam kiss another man a

few weeks before Stevie died?

I'm not sure when,

but something happened.

Tell me what you mean

by that.

She was kissing that Mexican

in our house.

And that happened a few

weeks before Stevie died?

I'm not sure when.

How would we best determine

when that occurred?

Ask the Mexican.

Let me direct your attention

to paragraph 14

Of Pam Hobbss

declaration.

"Two weeks after Stevie died,

terry left town.

He said I was

too much to handle

And that he could not

stay around me anymore. "

- Did I read that correctly?

- You did.

And is that

a true paragraph?

I'm not sure about

the time frame,

But, yeah,

I had to get away.

Are you all gonna be able

to get back together

Or is the marriage over?

It's- It's over.

Do you think you'd be

still together

If Stevie

hadn't been murdered?

Well...

we had trouble anyway,

You know, to be honest with

you, before this happened.

And he always told me

That he don't get mad;

he gets even.

You know, that's what

he had always said to me.

Man:
pam sure as heck thinks

that you did it, doesn't she?

Thinks who did what?

She thinks

you killed Stevie.

She thinks

who killed Stevie?

- You.

- No.

- She doesn't think that?

- No.

- She doesn't think you were involved?

- No.

A sickening feeling,

yeah-

I still think, you know, he

- He could have been capable.

Woman:
you've told

many different versions

Of what you did after

dropping pam Hobbs off at work

Around 5:
00 p. M.

On May 5th of 1993.

But in all those

versions

You were always

searching for Stevie

The whole time.

Correct?

Correct.

Now David Jacobi

is saying

That you came over

to his house

At 5:
00-Something

and played guitar

For about an hour.

I don't recall that.

You've repeatedly said

that you were

With mark byers

and Dana Moore

At 6:
00 p. M.,

But Dana Moore and mark

byers say you weren't.

You say you were not

ever alone

On the night of May 5th

and the morning of May 6th,

And yet David Jacobi says

you left his house

Twice alone.

That's correct,

isn't it, sir?

I don't know.

No one can corroborate

being with you

Or your whereabouts

For the time period

from 6:
00 p. M.

To 8:
00 or 8:30 p. M.

Isn't that true, sir?

So?

So my point is

there's not any witness-

Not any of your

alibi witnesses

Can confirm

your whereabouts

From 6:
00 p. M.

To 8:
30 p. M.

- Isn't that true, sir?

- And you're saying what?

I'm saying that you don't

have an alibi witness

For two to 21/2 hours on

the evening of the murders.

I don't know.

- Does that concern you?

- No.

Man:
did you see Stevie at

all that day, may the 5th?

No, I did not.

You didn't see Stevie

or Michael Moore

Or Christopher byers

at all

- On May 5th of 1993?

- I didn't.

Man:

if somebody testifies

That they saw you with

the boys that night-?

Do what?

If somebody testified that

they saw you and the boys,

Would they be lying?

Mm-Hmm, they would

be lying.

- 'Cause you never found the boys?

- No, I never found them.

- Never found them alive?

- Never found them at all.

Okay.

Man #2:
so if someone were to testify

That they saw

the three little boys

Standing behind you

On the evening

of may the 5th...

man #1:
prior to the time

that you went to pick up pam,

They'd be mistaken?

Most definitely.

I can't wait

to hear that one.

( Chuckles )

Steven branch lived three

houses down from our house.

And they came through

right here.

They zoomed through. There used

to be a bunch of bushes right here,

And they all zoomed through

and went down the sidewalk.

We came outside

to go to church at 6:30.

And I yelled at Christopher to go home,

And he said, "I don't have to

do what you tell me to do. "

I said, "okay, whatever,"

you know.

And we got in the car

to go to church.

But I saw terry coming down

the sidewalk here,

Coming this direction.

And he was calling

for Steven

To come back down

to their house.

And we got in the car

and left,

But they were-

They were together

When we went

past them.

As we were

driving by,

Steven was

on his bike riding

And Christopher and Michael

were running behind him.

They were laughing.

They were having fun

Like every time Ive

ever seen them before.

They were just having fun

like any other regular day.

And we drove by.

They were-

They were right here

near terry's house.

He was sitting outside,

calling for Steven.

And they were

still laughing.

They were laughing

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