Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory Page #11

right here.

And I will never

forget that.

As we drove by, that was

the last time we saw them.

The police or no one

ever came by our house.

We kind of thought

they might,

Because we live three doors

down, but no one ever came by.

This past year,

They were making

a big deal

About the tip line

on our news.

And I think I heard

a long time ago

That they went missing

at, like, 6:
00.

I said to myself, "I think

that they need to know

That they were around

our house playing at 6:30.

They were over here

in this neighborhood.

I thought that terry

would tell them

That he was

with the boys that day.

I never knew

until this year

That he was saying that

he didn't see them at all.

He's not

telling the truth.

He was out there

with them.

Terry Hobbs:
I didn't know

I was being investigated.

Nothing about what

they're saying is true.

And it's just-

The only thing really

that's ever bothered me

Is knowing that

they've taken my name

And said what they've said

about me.

I learned a lot

about depositions.

You know,

stay out of that.

( Laughs )

Woman:
this next question Im asking

With all due respect

to you

And to the west Memphis

police department,

And Im not being

facetious at all,

But it appears that the west

Memphis police department

And the prosecutors

Have never looked

at terry Hobbs-

One of the stepfathers of one of the victims

- Seriously

As being a person

of interest

Or even a possible suspect

in this case.

And I know you've been

gone for a long time.

Do you have

Any understanding

of why that is

Or any explanation

of why that would be?

Uh, I really can't

comment on it.

You're uncomfortable

talking about

What actually transpired in

that investigation. Why is that?

And the reason

I am uncomfortable is...

there is a wealth

of money

Supporting

the west Memphis three

In getting them

out of jail.

Now I believe-

I believe personally

They're guilty

of the crime.

Two juries said

they were guilty of it.

I'm afraid I could say

something inappropriately.

I could be wrong.

I could be forgetful.

And I don't want

to say anything

That would cause them

to get a new trial

Just based on

a comment I make.

Don't put that monkey

on my back-

That Ive said

something incorrectly

Over 16 years that I may

or may not remember,

That they're going to be

entitled to a new trial

For something I said?

No.

That's why Im not going

to discuss the case.

- Fair enough.

- If they have new evidence,

Hey, Im all for it.

Go for it.

John Douglas:
I looked at all

the different categories.

I looked and reviewed

the information

Relative to the case

And pretty-

Pretty clearly,

And it's pretty easy

to me

To define this case as

a personal cause homicide.

This is not a homicide either

perpetrated by a stranger.

The person responsible for

this crime knew these victims

And knew these victims

relatively well.

The question Id ask myself

is, if the motivation is murder,

If the initial intent is

murder, go ahead and kill.

Why did the subject

decide to tie up the victims

After stripping

them down naked?

I believe the initial

intent, in my analysis,

Was not to kill,

but was to taunt

And to punish-

Punish these individuals.

I saw criminal sophistication

at the crime scene.

The tying of the wrists

to the ankles-

I searched cases

all over the world.

I couldn't come up

with similar types of cases.

When I saw the offender

decide to get into the water

And to secrete the clothing

by pushing down the sticks-

The sticks in the clothing,

hiding the clothing

Along with

the three victims,

Using that kind of

concerted effort-

We're not looking at teenagers

committing crimes like this.

We're looking at somebody who's

relatively criminally sophisticated.

We're looking at somebody who

has been violent in the past,

Who's violent now and at the

time this crime was perpetrated,

And would also be violent

in the future.

The person responsible

for this crime

Can look at you right in the eye

- Can look at a camera

And say that

"I didn't do it. "

Because it's the

psychopathic personality.

There is no remorse. Anyone who

perpetrates a crime like this

And leaves the victims

like this in this condition

Is only concerned

about himself.

You could put him on the polygraph

- He'll pass the polygraph,

Particularly if it's

14 years later.

When john Douglas

told me

That terry Hobbs'

record and background

Made me look like

a boy scout,

I almost fell out.

And he was

dead serious.

Here's a world-Renowned,

30-Year,

Probably the finest profiler

in f. B.I. History.

I was nervous

just being around him,

Thinking he's

profiling me.

He told me he had done

that a long time ago.

He knew I had nothing

to do with it.

I've been asked,

"do you think

You're doing to terry

Hobbs what was done to you?"

No, no, no.

I'm talking

about facts.

I'm talking about d. N.A.

I'm talking about no alibi.

I'm talking about lies

after lies after lies.

( Tuning )

Why don't you hold this

and let me hold that?

And Ill tune it

real quick.

Don't make me reach over

and slap somebody.

( Muttering )

Brothers.

Tina Hobbs:
god knows all

things and why they happen.

We don't, but he does.

And we have to trust in him.

So I can tell you,

there's always gonna be talk.

You know, even for us, we

don't like some of the stuff

That is on the TV

and this and that

That has been said,

because we know, you know,

That, no, you know,

terry could not have been-

That, you know,

he didn't do this thing.

This is not terry.

Terry's-

I mean, you've seen,

you know.

Michael Hobbs:
I have

never changed my mind

From the conviction.

I don't care what all them other

people put on that internet,

I have never

changed my mind.

I'm just like

the state of Arkansas

And Im just like

the legal system.

I believe in justice

and I believe it was served.

They, you know, went

through trial and everything.

They did what they did.

They arrested three boys.

Until we get told otherwise,

we still believe

That's the ones that

should have been there-

Until we get told

otherwise.

I had something made-

Just the pros and cons

of terry Hobbs.

This pretty well

speaks for itself.

Two items that would be

on the innocent side-

That he needed to try

to restrain three victims.

Some say that might be a

little difficult. Not really.

Once he hit one child,

the other two

Probably froze like

a deer in headlights.

According to

the medical reports,

All three children

basically

From blows to the head

would have died.

And then possible

secondary transfer-

That's referring

to his hair

That was found

in a ligature

Tied to one

of the children.

That's about all on the

pro side you could find.

Let's look

at the guilty.

Motive, means,

and opportunity.

He had a violent past.

He worked

in a slaughterhouse.

And he admits being

in the woods at 6:30.

Terry Hobbs admits it.

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