Risk

Thank you.

More?

Do you want to cheers?

Um, most people have

Very strong principled stances

Don't survive

for long, actually.

We all want them

to survive for long,

But they don't survive for long

And do much at the same time.

And do much at the same time.

Yep.

- There are many times in

wikileaks' evolution

Where I've had

to be ruthlessly pragmatic,

So it is, to...

Understand the medium-term

Or the long-term goal

in principle,

But in fact,

not corrupt your principles

In the short term,

but be quite willing

To balance one for another

In order to actually survive

the moment.

Ukraine...

Egypt. You got it?

- Yeah.

- Zimbabwe.

Iraq.

All they can see

is that we've put it

On the web,

which looks irresponsible.

- Have you got

the u. S. Embassy yet?

- No.

- Well, please do that.

Are you recording?

- Yep.

Oh, hello. Can I please speak

to hillary clinton?

I'm calling from the office

of julian assange.

It's very important.

Yep, so julian assange

is the founder of wikileaks.

Okay.

And all of the u. S. Department

Of state cables-

We have intelligence

that they are about to be

Put on the web unredacted,

not by us,

And I would like

to speak to her about this.

Sarah.

Yes?

You need to call me back?

This is an emergency.

You're the emergency line

and it will take a while?

Okay. Well, do you want to do

that right now, and I'll wait?

He would like to speak

to her about that.

Yes.

Okay, well, let me start

by giving you phone number.

One moment, please.

he's not doing it.

More details other than

the entire unredacted

Cable set is about

to go on the internet?

I mean literally

it's about to happen.

I don't understand...

Why you're not seeing

the urgency in this.

- Just put him on anyway.

Who is he?

- Okay.

- Who is he?

Hello?

Good day, chad,

this is julian assange.

To try to make it clear,

we don't have a problem;

You have a problem,

And we are trying to help you

solve your problem,

Because we are indirectly

connected to your problem.

I would like to speak

to the most senior person

Available who can execute

an action quickly

To send someone

to location here in norfolk.

- I understand. Thank you.

Thank you for your call.

- Okay.

Okay. Thank you. Bye bye.

- Hello.

- See you tomorrow.

- Are you off?

- Bye.

- Dinner's on the side.

- What's for dinner, sue?

- Lamb chops, roast potatoes,

vegetables,

Crme brule and raspberries.

Thank you.

Very grand.

- Thank you.

- See you tomorrow. 3:30. Bye.

Bye.

Production journal.

I had a strange dream

about julian.

I was moving between

two spaces.

One, doing an insider expos,

The other at a hidden location.

I didn't tell julian what

I was working on in the dream.

The anxiety

must be a fear of betrayal,

And my worry about

how julian will react.

With this film, the lines

have become very blurred.

Sometimes I can't believe

what julian allows me to film.

Ego, yes,

but also brave.

He is managing his image,

but also being vulnerable.

It's a mystery to me

why he trusts me,

Because I don't think

he likes me.

Jordan.

Hello?

- Hello,

is this ms. Harrison?

- Speaking.

- Hi, ms. Harrison,

This is the state department

operations center.

We spoke yesterday.

If mr. Assange is available,

I have one of the secretary's

lawyers on the line

Who has been asked

to return the call

On the department

of state's behalf.

One of the secretary's lawyers

to take the call.

- Good day, cliff.

Thank you for calling back.

Um, have-have-

have you been briefed?

Um, I believe so.

We had understood that

you and perhaps sarah

Had been trying to reach out

both to the department,

And that there

had been some calls.

Yes, so the situation is,

We have intelligence that

the department database archive

Is being spread around,

and our view is

That it's more

your problem than it is ours,

But what we want

the state department to do

Is to step up

its warning procedures,

Which it was engaged

in earlier in the year

And late last year to, um-

To state department sources

That are mentioned

in the cables. I-

- Well, surely

you can understand that

When you're talking about

this volume of material,

That even with the best efforts

Of the United States

government,

That we are able to protect all

Or even a significant amount

Of source equities in them.

There's also

national security material

Throughout

the classified cables

That also causes us harm.

I mean, as you know,

mr. Assange, we had

In our public statements,

tried to dissuade wikileaks

From doing its releases

on the same ground,

And it would-

I don't know why

we would fare any better

With...

- Well, I mean...

- Than we did with you.

- Well, I understand you need

To make that statement

for legal reasons,

And you will understand

that I need to make

The following statement also,

that, um,

We make sure that there is

no harm to the interests

Of the United States,

and rather the news benefit

Is paramount

in everything that we do.

I have to say,

from our perspective,

A lot of this happened

as a result

Of the, um,

overbearing pressure

By the United States.

This is an example of

When you push people

into a corner,

They stop behaving

in a step-by-step

And methodical manner,

Because of the threats

that they are under.

Yeah, exactly.

- I was stopped

at the border again.

My detentions have become

more aggressive

Since I began

filming wikileakes.

The u. S. Agent at heathrow

wouldn't tell me his name

Or who he worked for.

At jfk they collected

all my electronics

And asked if I had

any hidden usb drives.

When I got home,

my apartment door was open.

Did I forget to close it

Or are they sending me

a message?

Can we start?

You need to be able to talk

about exciting projects

Without giving anything away.

Those of you who can,

'cause some of you

want to be sort of covert.

- Cover stories

for various people.

- That's what he means.

- That's what I'm talking about.

- So joe and sarah are already

very publicly visible.

They go as joe and sarah.

- I want each person

to give their story,

And you can correct it,

because then we hear it

From them,

and then if other people ask us

Who they are,

we've heard it in their voice.

Who are you?

I'm a swedish journalist,

And I'm a good friend.

- Okay.

- Renata, what's your name?

Are you renata?

- I'm renata,

I'm from guatemala.

I'm lawyer and I have been

researching the last years

About freedom of information,

human rights issues in general,

And many of the issues

I work with

Converge with the issues

of the organization.

- But are you a lawyer

for julian?

Are you a lawyer for wikileaks?

Are you-what?

- What should I say?

I don't know.

- I think you should say that

you are...

A lawyer for wikileaks.

- Okay.

- Ediza?

Uh, my name is ediza.

- I would like

to introduce jacob appelbaum,

The speaker of wikileaks.

He's an independent

security specialist.

Rate this script:0.0 / 0 votes