Shoah Page #18
to rush to the rear doors,
and are mainly found lying there
at the end of the operation.
So the front axle is not overloaded.
Secondly:
The lighting must be
better protected than now.
The lamps must be enclosed
in a steel grid
to prevent their being damaged.
Lights could be eliminated,
since they apparently are never used.
However, it has been observed
that when the doors are shut,
the load always
presses hard against them
(against the doors)
as soon as darkness sets in.
This is because the load
naturally rushes toward the light
when darkness sets in,
which makes
closing the doors difficult.
Also, because
of the alarming nature of darkness,
screaming always occurs
when the doors are closed.
It would therefore be useful
to light the lamp
before and during
the first moments of the operation.
Third:
For easy cleaning of the vehicle,
there must be a sealed drain
in the middle of the floor.
The drainage hole's cover,
8 to 12 inches in diameter,
would be equipped with a slanting trap,
so that fluid liquids
can drain off during the operation.
During cleaning,
the drain can be used
to evacuate large pieces of dirt.
The aforementioned technical changes
are to be made
to vehicles in service
only when they come in for repairs.
As for the 10 vehicles
ordered from Saurer,
they must be equipped
with all innovations and changes
shown by use
and experience to be necessary.
Submitted for decision
to Gruppenleiter H D,
SS-Obersturmbannfiihrer Walter Rauff.
Signed Just.
END OF THE FIRST ERA
FRANZ SUCHOMEL:
SS UnterscharfiJhrer
[ Suchomel Singing In German]
Looking squarely ahead, brave and joyous
At the world
The squads march to work
All that matters to us now is Treblinka
It is our destiny
That's why we've become one
with Treblinka
In no time at all
We know only the word
of our Commander
We know only obedience and duty
We want to serve,
to go on serving
Until a little luck ends it all
HurrayJ
[ Lanzmann, In German]
Once more, but louder.
[ Suchomel]
We're laughing about it but ifs so sad.
- [ L anzmann j No one is" laughing.
- [ Suchome/ j Don 7' be sore at' me.
You want History.
I'm giving you History.
Franz wrote the words.
The melody came from Buchenwald.
Camp Buchenwald,
where Franz was a guard.
New Jews who arrived in the morning...
- New worker Jews?
- Ja.
They were taught the song,
and by evening all of them had to sing it.
- [ Lanzmann ] Sing it again.
- All right.
[ Lanzmann ]
It's very important. But loud!
Looking squarely ahead,
brave and joyous
At the world
The squads march to work
All that matters to us now is Treblinka
It is our destiny
That's why we've become one with Treblinka
In no time at all
We know only the word
of our Commander
We know only obedience and duty
We want to serve, to go on serving
Until a little luck ends it all
Hurray N'
Satisfied?
That's unique.
No Jews know that today!
[Train Approaching ]
[ Lanzmann ]
How was it possible in Treblinka
in peak days...
Mm-hmm.
To process 18,000 people?
18,000 is too high.
- But I read that figure in court reports.
- Sure.
To process 18,000 people.
To liquidate them.
Mr. Lanzmann, that's an exaggeration.
Believe me.
How many?
12,000 t015,000.
But we had to spend half the night at it.
- Ja.
In January,
the trains started arriving at 6 A.M.
Ja?
Always at 6 A.M.?
- Not always.
Often.
- Yes.
- The schedules were erratic.
- Yes.
Sometimes one came at 6 A.M.,
then another at noon,
maybe another late in the evening.
You see?
- So a train arrived.
I'd like you to describe in detail
the whole process.
During the peak period.
- Uh-huh.
[ Lanzmann ]
Hmm?
[ Suchomel ]
The trains left Malkinia station,
for Treblinka station.
[ Lanzmann ]
How many miles from Malkinia to Treblinka?
[ Suchomel]
About six miles.
Treblinka was a village.
A small village.
As a station,
it gained in importance
because of the transports of Jews.
There were at least 30 to 50 cars.
They were divided
into sections of 10 or 15
shunted into Treblinka Camp,
and brought to the ramp.
The other cars waited, loaded with people,
in Treblinka station.
The windows were closed off
with barbed wire,
so no one could get out.
On the roofs were the hellhounds,
the Ukrainians or Latvians.
The Latvians were the worst.
On the ramp, for each car,
there stood
two Jews from Blue Squad
to speed things up.
They said,
Get out, get out. Hurry, hurry!
There were also Ukrainians and Germans.
[ Lanzmann ]
How many Germans?
[ Suchomel ]
3 to 5.
- No more?
- No more. I can assure you.
How many Ukrainians?
- Ten.
- [ Lanzmann Repeats Phrase]
[ Lanzmann ]
10 Ukrainians, 5 Germans.
Ja, ja.
2... 20 people from the Blue Squad.
Men from the Blue Squad
were here and here.
They sent the people inside.
The Red Squad was here.
- Ja?
- So the Red Squad was here.
- What was the Red Squad's job?
The clothes...
to carry the clothes
taken off by the men
and by the women
up here immediately.
How much time elapsed
between unloading at the ramp
and the undressing,
how many minutes?
For the women,
let's say an hour in all.
- [ Repeats Phrase]
An hour, an hour and a half.
A whole train took 2 hours.
- Yes.
In 2 hours, it was all over.
- Between the time of arrival...
- Und... and...
and death.
It was all over in 2 hours?
- 2 hours, 2 1/2 hours, 3 hours.
A whole train?
Yes, a whole train.
And for only one section,
for 10 cars, how long?
I can't calculate that
because the sections
came one after another,
and people flooded in constantly,
understand?
Usually, the men waiting
who sat there, or there,
were sent straight up via the funnel.
The women were sent last.
At the end.
They had to go up there too,
and often waited here.
5... at a time.
50 people.
60 women with children.
They had to wait here
until there was room here.
- Naked.
- Naked.
In summer and winter.
- In winter?
- In winter.
[ Lanzmann ]
Winter in Treblinka can be very cold.
[ Suchomel] Well, in winter,
in December, anyway after Christmas.
- J a.
- Bu! e van before Christmas it was cold as hell.
Between 15 and minus 4.
I know:
At firstit was cold as hell for us, too.
We didn't have suitable uniforms.
It was cold for us too.
But it was colder for...
- For those poor people.
- In the funnel.
In the funnel, it was very, very cold.
- [ Repeats Phrase]
- Ja.
Can you...
describe this funnel precisely?
What was it like? How wide?
- Ja. Ja, der Sch/auch. ..
How was it
for the people in this funnel?
It was about 13 feet wide.
- Das Isl'...
- As wide as this room.
[ Repeats Phrase]
On each side were walls
this high or this high.
- Walls?
- No, barbed wire.
Woven into the barbed wire,
uh, were branches of pine trees.
- Mm-hmm.
- You understand?
It was known as camouflage.
There was a Camouflage Squad of 20 Jews.
They brought in new branches every day.
- From the woods?
- That's right.
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