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From this online collective

seems to come a real communion.

People from all over gather in

groups to investigate UFOs,

with safety in numbers

against ridicule and disinformation.

What we found in the past is,

we had a lot anecdotal stories,

but we didn't have a whole lot of data.

With the advent of computers,

personal computers, and the internet,

we've been able to collect the data

and analyze it through

some 200+ data points

to allow us to be able to compare cases

and to see exactly what's happening

and what the trends are.

Nick Pope is our guest.

He made this information public.

He's also the former head of the

Ministry of Defense's UFO projects,

so if anybody knows, we

think it's you, Nick.

The Ministry of Defense is in

the process of declassifying

and releasing its entire archive

of UFO files going back decades.

It's interesting and

worth pointing out that while the

British government is releasing

their files and their documents,

President Obama, who

promised to do the

same during the campaign,

he still has not.

It's fifteen years.

Fifteen years this spring.

- My God!

I figured that, you know,

after the Disclosure Project,

we'd get this information out,

and we could go on with life.

Governments, we've discovered,

have not gone far enough,

so we've decided that as people

using the CE-5 protocols

to form our own movement and do what

governments have not been doing.

We think of this as the people's

disclosure movement.

And so we feel it's

important to create

an effort that's a global

effort which this has become.

My name is Marc Benz,

and this is Rex.

And we're in Bodega, California,

and we're doing CE-5.

My name is Jeff Bird, and here

in Winchester, Virginia, USA,

we're doing CE-5.

My name is Peggy Brewster, and here in

Middleton, United States of America,

we are doing CE-5.

We have 1,150 teams of CE-5 ambassadors

which are spread over fifty-two countries.

My name is Andre, and here in

Sweden, we are doing CE-5.

Here in Burlington, Ontario.

- Brisbane, Australia.

From Chester, Virginia.

- Hamilton, Ohio.

We are doing CE-5.

We're doing CE-5.

And the reason I think

that's so important is that

it, not only builds the knowledge base,

but it also further potentiates

this concept of

pioneering a new pattern

of peaceful contact.

And that is something

that no other group,

large group on Earth is doing.

Certainly isn't being done

by the State Department

and the Senate Foreign

Relations Committee.

It seems to be, it only

takes one person to make contact,

but hundreds of voices worldwide

is a call that can't be missed.

And likewise with innovation,

the more heads in the game,

the more likely we are to find a solution.

There's many, many technologies

that people have talked about.

Many ways to the mountain top.

We have so many modes of converting

quantum vacuum energy

or zero point energy.

Some people think they know

how to do it. Okay, fine.

But if you do it theoretically,

that's one thing.

But then you've got to

do it experimentally,

and that's the hard part.

Those opposed to new

energy technologies

can tie the hands of hundreds of inventors,

but how will they ever fare

against tens of thousands?

The output milliamperage is more

than the input milliamperage.

It's a clear indicator of over unity.

When you oscillate or

vibrate magnetic fields,

there's an effect in the gravity field.

And how to do that linkage

is what you're trying to get at,

as I understand it.

Maxwell's Equations are in

that term right there,

and what happens is

if you're going to have

a gravitational effect,

it's going to happen over there.

This channel here

represents revolutions per minute.

These are representing

weight that we're measuring

on the load cells.

Full steam ahead.

When we look at our data,

we lost seven percent of weight.

We move this thing,

and it loses weight.

I must be generating gravity waves.

Though the device maintains

its shape and size

in terms of dimension,

it is losing mass,

if that's a possibility.

If it is losing mass,

then certainly it would also be affecting

time in a very localized manner.

By looking at new technology,

you could break through

new commercial aspects

to improve our society.

We should be looking for a

disruptive breakthrough in this technology

within the next ten years.

We're on the brink of developing any number

of potential propulsion systems

which would take us out

of the solar system.

I think we're going to beat

NASA to the mark.

So I graduated from the

UCLA School of Engineering in 1976.

I got a flyer from the

School of Engineering

inviting me to a lecture by Ben Rich.

Ben Rich was the director of

Lockheed Skunkworks for sixteen years.

He oversaw a number of USAPS

that were secretly managed

at the Skunkworks,

including most notably,

the development of the

F117 stealth fighter.

Ben shared a slide set

of about forty slides of different things,

starting with the U2 spy plane

going all the way up to

the stealth fighter.

At that time mentioning that he couldn't

talk about the other secret stuff,

but when he ended his talk

was he had a slide of a black disc

zipping off into outer space.

And he ended this talk with these words:

"We now have the technology

to take ET home. "

So you have to have vision

and you have to have the guts and the

courage to go out past the steps,

and do something of any value

and we have to go past our grasp.

And we asked him questions

about it, you know,

"What did you mean when you said 'we

have the technology to take ET home'?"

Ben shared three major things that

I think are worthy of research

by researchers worldwide

at this point in time.

The first was we've somehow

figured out how to

do interstellar travel already.

It's known.

The second point he made was that

there was an error in the equations.

My suspicion is it's probably Maxwell's

Equations for Electromagnetic Theory.

The third thing he said was

"How does ESP work?"

And I was really kind of startled cause I

didn't know what to say, but I blurted out,

"I don't know. All points in time

and space are connected. "

And he looked me back in the eye,

and he said, "That's how it works. "

History has taught us

that to simply innovate new technology

may not be enough.

We have to find a way to

get past the suppression.

We've already now had a breakthrough

just a couple months ago

of the tritium battery.

Finally a company has come up with

an actual commercializable unit,

but it's very small.

It's designed for an IC

or some small circuit component,

so this is a good sign

because it shows the way to introduce

a free energy device

is to introduce a small version of it.

If you have a revolutionary energy device,

it has to be introduced in a way

that doesn't look like it's a revolution.

Science is always changing.

Even back in the 1960s

they thought that biofeedback,

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