Standard Operating Procedure Page #7

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Threw the guys on the floor,

I fell on the pile,

did like a WWF, you know,

just jumped on them a little bit.

I wanted to do more,

I was mad.

I'm like, "You done hurt one of

our soldiers, like, that's it."

So I stepped on the finger,

stepped on the guy's finger,

stepped on the guy's toe.

I wanted to hurt him,

the gentleman who hit the female

in the face with the brick.

I wanted to hurt

him really bad.

I finished my day

in the motor pool

and I had generator

detail that night.

Just sitting there at night,

it gets very boring.

Computer system

was very slow.

I was waiting for

e-mail to come up.

And Sergeant Frederick

walked in.

He had to print out

some papers and stuff.

And we started talking.

He got a call on the radio

that he had some individuals

he had to in-process.

He said, "Come on, you walk down

to the holding cell with me."

So I walked down with him. And they

had the seven individuals there.

And I said,

"Hey, Freddy,

"you want me to grab one of the

detainees and take him down for you?"

He said,

"Yeah, go ahead."

And as I'm getting closer to Tier 1 Alpha,

I could hear Graner yelling.

And I'm like,

"Where do you guys want him?"

They said,

"Just put him on the floor."

So I pushed him onto the

floor with the other guys.

And that's when all the pictures

and stuff started happening.

That's when Javal was stepping on

the fingers and stuff and on the toes,

and Lynndie was also.

And that's when all

the pictures started

and Graner asked me

to take the staged photo

of him with the one detainee where

he was cradling the detainee's head

and he was acting like he

was gonna strike the detainee.

Never struck him.

As soon as I took the photograph,

he laid the detainee down.

And then they start the

stripping of the detainees

and taking more

photographs.

Graner walks over to one of the detainees,

punches him in the temple,

for what reason,

I don't know.

I mean, hits

the detainee hard.

And, after he does that,

Sabrina matches up the numbers,

says, "This guy's

in here for rape."

So Graner rips the leg open

on the jumpsuit that he had.

Sabrina writes,

"I am a rapeist," on him.

The guy hasn't moved for,

like, two or three minutes.

I kind of look

at him and I said,

"Hey, Grane, something's

wrong with that guy."

And I walked over and

I lifted the sandbag,

up to where

I could see his eyes.

The guy was unconscious.

I said, "Graner, you knocked

that dude out."

And he kind of shook his...

And after he punched him,

he kind of shook his hand

and he said,

"Ouch! Damn, that hurt."

And he didn't seem

too concerned about it.

And then I walked back over by Freddy.

We were standing there.

And Freddy looks at me and he says,

"Hey, watch this."

Goes over, gets the guy

that I escorted down,

lifts the guy up, marks

an "X" on his chest

punches the guy right

square in the chest.

I'm like, "What?

"Who are you and what

did you do with Freddy?"

Then they started the whole one

facing the wall on his knees

and setting the other

one on top of him.

They had flex-cuffs,

which are, more or less, big zip ties.

And I told Graner,

"This guy's gonna lose his hands

"if we don't get them

off of him. They're purple."

I said, "Well, I got

my Gerber on me.

"I can probably get

them with that,

"but we're gonna have

to stand him up."

It took a little while,

but I finally got them off of him

and then the blood started

flowing back in his hands.

And as far as I know,

the guy kept his hands.

That's when Graner and Freddy

started with the human pyramid thing.

Graner told me that he

was doing what he was told

that's why

he was doing it.

And as I was leaving the tier that night,

I was told that I didn't see sh*t.

And me being the person that I am,

I try to be friends with everybody.

I said, "See what?

I didn't see nothing."

I was always

asked by CID,

"Why didn't you

report this?

"Didn't I feel that

it was morally wrong?"

I said, "Yes, but when

you're in war, things change."

We were told,

"No pictures of prisoners."

I was asked to take it.

I'm a nice guy, so I took it.

I try not to have

anybody mad at me.

That's the way

I've always been.

But I guess being a nice

guy doesn't always pay off.

Some people ask me now why I'm

not as nice as what I used to be.

I say, "Put yourself

in my shoes.

"Go through what I've went through

in the last two and half, three years.

"See how nice you'll be."

HARMAN:
Sivits just happened to

stick around for maybe five minutes.

I mean, he never

hurt anyone.

He got a year in jail for nothing.

Just for being there.

He shouldn't have

got any time at all.

I don't think he would've even been

charged if he wasn't in that video.

MORRIS:
Who took the video?

I did.

The last thing I remember

was one guy standing

and one guy kneeling.

And the one guy had his

hand on the other guy's head.

And that's the last

photo that I took.

Then we left to go

use the phones.

It was Kelly's birthday,

so I went to make a phone call.

Me and Megan were still

upstairs in the office.

And we walked out and they were

throwing them into a dogpile

and taking pictures

from the top tier.

About that time,

Graner and Davis and Frederick

started jumping

on the dogpile.

And that's when I went

downstairs with a camera.

Graner said he wanted

some taken down there, too.

Me, Freddy and Sabrina

were taking pictures,

three different cameras

that night.

They were lined up against the wall,

and Graner started taking them one by one.

We didn't know

what he was doing.

Nobody knew.

He didn't say anything.

And then he told us that he

was piling them in a pyramid.

And we're like,

"Okay, why?"

He's like, "To control them,

so they're all in one area."

So we're like, "Okay."

Freddy is the one that

started them masturbating.

I don't know why,

but he did.

He started the one

and then he wanted to see if the

others would do it too, I guess.

I don't know.

But he had them all

doing it at the same time.

At one point,

six of the guys stopped

and the one guy kept doing

it for like 45 minutes.

No joke.

The one guy that was

still masturbating,

that was the one

picture with me in it.

He wanted me in it,

and I didn't want to be in it.

I was like,

"I'm not going over there."

MORRIS:
Who wanted you in it?

Freddy.

And then Graner

joined in.

Graner was like,

"Yeah, just come on."

I was like,

"No, I don't want to go over there."

And he's like,

"Come on, just do it for me,"

and this and that.

And I'm like, "Fine."

MORRIS:

Was this your birthday?

They brought them in after midnight.

So, yeah.

MORRIS:
Which birthday?

I had heard Graner saying,

"Well, this is your birthday present,"

or something,

and I'm like...

I don't know why

he would have said it

'cause I really wouldn't

have wanted that, but, yeah.

I mean, he used me.

And even though I was

stupid enough to fall for it.

I mean, now I'll know

what to look for.

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