The Deathmaker Page #5

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- What else?

- The lungs. I cut them up too.

- On what?

- On what?

- On what surface?

They were in there!

The blood would've been everywhere!

- You cut them up inside the body?

- My hands were bloody up to here!

You can't do it in one go.

You have to take a rest. Or lie down.

Did you sleep well?

Yes.

How did you cut off the legs?

- Like this.

- And then?

Then I loosened the fat parts,

took off the red meat,

then cut out chunks this size,

and then I took the bones out.

What did you do with the fat?

- I cut it up in little pieces.

- How big?

About this big.

Check it.

How many centimeters?

6 cm.

Maybe smaller, maybe bigger.

Wasn't there any blood?

Just a little. That's nothing!

Cutting out the heart, that's bloody!

What did you do with the blood?

- Put it in a bucket.

- And the meat?

Threw it in the Leine a few times.

How often?

6 or 7 times.

Until everything was gone.

There's not much to a human being.

In a briefcase under your arm.

What did you do with the skin?

- Went into the water, too! Here, there!

- Did you have a look?

- I watched it float away.

- And the bones?

I took a newspaper, wrapped them up

and threw them in.

Did they float?

Splash! And they were gone.

- And the fingers?

- Into the toilet.

- Into the toilet...

- I cut them in half!

Was it easy?

It's hard work!

But they smell if you keep them.

I did that once.

And lots of worms came out!

What did you do?

I couldn't cut any meat then.

I couldn't.

What did you do with the toes?

You can't throw them into the water.

They float!

So what?

All the boys play there!

They go fishing there! They'd hear!

- They'd say, "Fritz threw them in!"

- Why would they suspect you?

You could see me throwing the stuff in!

Once they asked me,

"Fritz... what are you throwing in there?"

"I'm feeding your fish!"

That's what I told them.

What did you do with the genitals?

Went into the toilet, too.

Did you rub them

to see if they'd get stiff?

- You don't do that. They're all bloody!

- Sucked them?

No, not then.

Did you cut them up in small pieces?

I had to! In 3 or 4 pieces.

The damned things are hard to cut up.

They kept slipping away,

the damned things.

And the toilet never got clogged up?

I threw them in, pressed the button,

and swoosh!

They were gone.

Was your member hard

when you cut up the corpses?

No... I don't want to

talk about it anymore.

What did you do with the skulls?

Like this.

I cut in here with the knife and

all the way round, like the Indians!

It's in the books, I've seen it!

I cut off the hair,

and threw everything in a bucket

and into the toilet.

And then?

With the cleaver. Like this...

I told you.

I've got this little cleaver.

Did the skullcap come off easily?

Are you kidding?

The fingernails... It hurts.

I had to pry it open with my cleaver!

It cracked a little.

It's... like a pot, round.

I had to get it off.

A skin covered the brain.

What did you do with it?

I cut it up and took out the brain.

A man has 3 brains.

3 pieces.

Did you take the skin off the face?

No, I couldn't.

I took a cloth and whacked it.

Pounded it!

Sick?

Have some water.

What was underneath the skull?

A doormat. And on top of that

I put some rags and my jacket,

so it wouldn't...

...bump!

Did you cut the eyes out?

No, I covered them with a hanky.

I didn't want them to look at me.

But they were dead!

Yes, but they say that...

the spirit lives on.

You believe they could still see?

Not if their eyes were covered.

Could they see when they were dead?

You're supposed to see everything.

Nonsense! You're no fool!

My mother used to say a dead person

hears and sees everything!

My sister, too. Go and ask my sister!

How long did it all take?

The first times...

...it took me days. Awfully long.

Later I only needed 1 or 2 days.

What did you do when

everything was gone?

Lay down in bed! I was real sick:

Nauseous, headaches.

- I couldn't eat a thing.

- Why?

If you were dead like that

you wouldn't look pretty either!

Were you sorry?

I always cried.

I felt paralyzed.

Then why did you do it

over and over again?

I didn't want to.

So many of them went away again.

It had happened. What could I do?

That's enough! Every time I think

about it I get a headache!

I didn't want to take

Fromm with me again.

Why not?

He was such a cute boy! So sweet.

He took me in his arms so nice.

He'd been to Hamburg.

He really could smooch!

I couldn't say,

"Man, I'm going to kill you!"

So how did your arrest come about?

I kept saying,

"Go away! Go away!"

But he always came back.

So I told him,

"I don't want you to. No way!"

When he tried to force me to take him

along, I reported him to the police.

The police?

I would've bitten him to death.

He was so horny!

But the police couldn't know about it?

No, I'm not that stupid.

When I had him arrested

he got really cheeky.

Talked about queers and stuff.

Then they said,

"Fritz, you'll stay here as well!"

I said, "I don't care. "

Had you been arrested

for the same reason before?

Yes, they always sent me to court-

prison and let me go.

They let you go?

It's not punishable.

Why didn't they let you go this time?

Because they'd found some heads.

And how was your guilt ascertained?

At the police station they...

...sort of punched me around.

I was black and blue.

Afterwards Inspector Ratz

came and said,

"Come on, Fritz, tell us about it!"

I said, "If you stop hitting me!"

He said, "No one'll hurt you here. "

So I told them.

How did he know you

killed Robert Witzel?

He knew more,

wanted to know everything.

Did they show you clothing?

They showed me all the stuff.

I said, "It's probably like you say. "

- Was Witzel horny, too?

- He wouldn't be dead otherwise!

If he goes to Hanover

they'll get him, too.

How many did you kill?

3, 4 dozen?

Dozen? Don't you start!

There can't have been that many!

- I keep saying, 10 or 20.

- They found 22 right thigh-bones!

They showed them to me. Add them to

the list. Or 100, it doesn't matter.

Where they're buried

there'll be a big monument...

- ... with my name on it.

- Your name?

What will it say?

"These are victims...

...of the mass murderer...

...Fritz Haarmann. "

It'll be an attraction. For 1,000 years!

They'll all come and see it.

They've made books and magazines.

There'll be novels, too. I'm famous!

It isn't nice to be a famous murderer.

It's the only way. Now everybody

knows me. Everywhere!

I'd rather do without the fame.

- You're famous now, too.

- Because I have to talk to you!

- You see!

- They're sorry for me.

They think I'll...

No, I'm such a good person!

Why were you in Hildesheim?

My old man's fault.

You did foolish things with a child.

- That was Willy.

- What nonsense!

- Now you're starting, too.

- You were in court for child abuse!

Lies!

You said you didn't

give it a second thought.

I said that? Rubbish!

- You were examined.

- I don't know.

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