The Karma Killings Page #6

- I thought for it

for two to three minutes.

I said, "Listen, I know

it's a very hard

decision for me.

Go in for the death penalty.

Let's... Let's see."

- Today,

the decision is that,

under Act 302,

Koli has been sentenced to death.

Pandher also gets

the death sentence and a

fine of 50,000 rupees.

- I can never forget the day

when the verdict was given.

- I'm very happy

that both have been

sentenced to death.

All the poor kids

of this country will be safe.

All kids,

whether rich or poor,

will be safe.

- The lower court

is the greatest court!

The best thing is that

the criminal who was

being protected

by the CBI

and not even charged

has now been sentenced

to death by the court.

- It was a great time,

and whenever

I think of it,

I remember it fondly.

It was a very

exhilarating moment.

- And when he heard

that he was going to be

held guilty anyways,

he in fact told me,

"Don't appeal it. It's...

It's just useless."

- He had actually given up hope. He's like,

"You know what?

I've just been branded.

Just let it be."

He was like, "It's no use

fighting for my life.

Why don't you actually

break away from everything?

Sell off a few of the things

that you possess.

Start a new life.

Live your life the way,

you know, you want to.

Let these cases be."

- Do you feel the judgment

has been influenced?

- Thanks to the media.

Thank you.

- Will you appeal?

- -Of course.

- What is

your father saying?

- He doesn't

want me to appeal. He

says, "I want to die."

"I don't want

to live with the shame."

He's told me

not to appeal. But I

am going to appeal.

I am.

Thank you.

- And I refused.

And I still remember,

I was crying. I was standing

with him, I was crying.

I said, it's not

going to happen. As

much as you want

to try to explain - things to

me, It's not going to happen.

It's the end of the story with me.

I am fighting it.

I am fighting it.

I'll not lose heart for it.

I'll not give up on you,

because it's not in me.

I don't give up on things.

I don't give up on family,

And especially my father,

never ever will I.

- It was ten o'clock

when she vanished.

I'd heard

about other children

missing in the area.

I started feeling nervous.

I took some boys to

start looking around.

We had some bikes

and started looking for her.

- I ran to the tailor's shop

and asked if my

daughter had come by.

He said his machine wasn't

working, so she left.

She had a scarf in her hand.

I went to the cigarette shop

and asked there.

He said he hadn't seen her.

There was a fruit seller.

"You have been sitting

here for a while.

Did you see her?"

He said, "No."

Pandher was standing there.

I asked him, "Sir, have

you seen my daughter?"

"No," he said. He denied it.

"You've been here

for a while. Did you see her?"

He said,

"No. I haven't seen her."

He had been standing here,

he denied seeing my daughter.

He was right here,

holding onto his gate.

He saw me crying, but still

didn't say a word about

where my daughter was.

All this time,

my daughter was kidnapped

inside his house.

- Nobody is willing to believe

That Pandher had no idea

what was going on in his house.

No one has given them

answers to their questions.

No one can say exactly

why Pandher wasn't involved,

or why Pandher

isn't a criminal.

- Everything has happened in your house.

How come you don't know?

That is the simple most

question people ask.

My question to them

has always been a very

standard question.

You are sitting right now

in front of me.

What is happening

in your house? Please explain it.

And they don't have

an answer to it

because they can't.

- You wanted to see

the servants' quarters?

Come.

Oh, they're not here right now.

A master and a servant

is actually

a very, uh, white term for

an employer and an employee.

We just retain the colonial

term "Servants",

otherwise they are as good

as our employees these days.

We cannot, uh...

It's not any kind of slavery.

They get their monthly dues.

They, uh, do their work

according to what they

are prescribed to do.

And that's about it.

It's...

It's a very clean, uh...

You may say it is an

employer-employee

sort of a thing.

And, uh, like,

she is our maid at the house,

as well as, uh,

she is the gardener's wife.

They take care

of the entire garden

as well as she mops inside.

- It was

a normal house.

There was nothing

weird about it.

Most of Koli's activities

were in the upstairs bathroom.

Koli strangled people

downstairs and chopped their

bodies in the bathroom.

It was a normal house

downstairs.

The only difference was that

there was no family

living there.

Sometimes, Pandher would come and stay.

Otherwise, it was just Koli.

- So, Koli's relation

to the house was very clear.

He used to take care of the house

When my father or we people

were not around there.

So,

in a very simple term,

when we were not there,

he was the master of the house.

Like, they have a unit

to themselves.

Koli had on the first floor,

he had a room to himself.

And he had a washroom attached to it.

He had an independent entry

as well as an entry

from inside the house.

- They think it's us who have done it,

It's my father who's done it.

How much ever we explain it,

how much ever we tried to

simplify things for them,

they just don't want to...

They have...

A story has been, you know,

made in their head, and

they are following that.

They are not looking towards the evidence.

I, in fact, sat down with

a single victim's

family for once.

I explained them

the evidence, "Listen,

this is how it is."

And he didn't pursue a case

against my father.

I was... My father was not

summoned in his son's case.

And that case has reached High Court.

And only Surinder Koli

was convicted in that case.

My father was not made

a party in that case also.

- This is the main thing

that's working against us.

Here you go.

Read this to satisfy yourself.

- Give me that portion as well.

- That's what I was looking for.

-The one about

the washerman's daughter? -Yes.

- Give me a smoke. This is what

you were looking for,

the entire discussion.

Everything is discussed here.

- Then, I saw a girl walking.

Her name was Jyoti.

She used to deliver

clothes to the house.

Her father was a washerman.

And she had come

a couple of times to

take our clothes.

I asked her to come inside

and pick up some

clothes for ironing.

She followed me inside.

I asked her where she was coming from.

She said,

"From the tailor's."

I said, "Count the clothes

I give you." She kept

her scarf on the side.

I took her scarf

and suffocated her.

She was 10 or 12 years old.

She was unconscious.

I tried to have sex

with her body.

I strangled her more

with her own scarf. I

kept her in the bathroom.

Then I came downstairs

and picked up a sack.

I put the body in the sack

and kept it in the bathroom

until the evening.

That day, Pandher was at home.

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