The Red Pill Page #9

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many men abuse physically,

emotionally, verbally,

and in other ways,

the women and girls,

and the men and boys

that they claim to love?

What's going on with men?

Let's Grant every single

empirical case as being true.

Yes, it is true.

Let's just say...

I mean, it is not true,

but let's just assume

that there is gender symmetry

in domestic violence,

that women hit men

as much as men hit women.

If I were to say that,

I would say,

therefore,

we need boatloads more funding

for domestic violence

to develop shelters

and adequate interventions,

'cause there's

this hidden epidemic

of men who are being

beaten up by women.

Or, I could say, as

the men's rights movement do,

therefore, we shouldn't

have these shelters

and we shouldn't fund them

because the women are all lying.

well, it seems to me, that if you

really believe in gender symmetry,

you're not questioning

the number of women.

You're just saying

the number of men is...

You would want to join

with women

who are antiviolence

to say we have

a real problem here.

It's not even a gender problem.

It's a problem of women hitting

men and men hitting women.

We've gotta get boatloads more funding.

Let's work together.

That seems the logical

response to this.

But instead they're saying,

it's like a zero sum game.

If we fund the women,

then we're gonna ignore the men.

Well, we're not... we're not

gonna ignore the women,

'cause we all agree that the

levels are as high as we say.

But it does sound

like a zero sum game

when only women

are receiving services

in domestic violence situations.

And of all the men's rights

activists I've met,

none of them question

the number of female victims.

But they are calling attention

to the high number

of male victims

that are being dismissed.

So why aren't

men's rights activists

and feminists working together?

Michael Kimmel briefly said

something that made me wonder.

He said it would no longer

be a gender problem

if both men and women were

equally victims

of domestic violence.

Is that why the number

of male victims

are never addressed?

To me, it's been fraud

for all these years.

why is it we have this enormously

powerful feminist movement

and virtually nothing for men?

Originally, it was capitalism

was the big enemy

in the '60s and '70s.

And it was the radical feminists in

America that moved the goal post.

They said, no, it's no longer

capitalism is the enemy.

The enemy is patriarchy...

Or men.

And that's how

the women's movement began,

and it was

enormously successful.

The new mood in the refuges

was gonna be that no man

could work in refuges,

and can't today.

They can't sit on the boards.

And boys over 9,

or possibly 12,

can't so into refuges.

You call them shelters.

Their mothers have to make

other arrangements for them,

which I find shocking.

And it ring-fenced money.

I think that

that particular time

when the feminist movement

were desperate for funding

'cause they'd run out

of publicity...

They were desperate for funding

and they needed a just cause.

And, unfortunately,

it fell into their laps.

It's an enormous industry.

I mean,

"violence against women,"

they get something like...

Well, it's a billion

and over a year.

Hmm.

And an awful lot of that

goes on, really,

supposedly rehabilitating men,

but essentially punishing them

with something that's called

the Duluth model.

Duluth power and control.

Well, you guys know about that?

- No.

- I'll give you a copy.

In 1977, I think, a bunch of crazy

women up in Duluth, Minnesota,

figured out they had the

solution to domestic violence

and it was all about patriarchy

and all about men.

It's the Duluth power

and control wheel,

'cause men are all about

power and control.

Of course, not you ladies.

You guys, you don't

control anything.

You have no power.

You're just sweet

and innocent little things.

Okay, so this power

and control wheel

is divided up

in all these things,

you know, about who does

this and who does that,

and blah, blah, blah.

And of course, it's all men.

The entire domestic violence

industry was founded on that.

I think it's still 37

or 32 states

in the United States

that by law they have to use

the Duluth model

for batter intervention program.

It's all shame,

blame, and guilt driven.

If you're a man and you walk in,

you must admit

you did it up front

or you're in denial.

There's no debate.

There's no discussion.

There's no possibility that

you could be falsely accused,

the criminal justice system

could've made a mistake.

None whatsoever.

You are in a state of denial,

and you will complete

that course

or you're gonna go to jail.

You will be re-engineered.

That's frightening.

- Frightening?

- Yes, that's frightening.

I think it's terrifying.

Absolutely terrifying.

All I had to do,

I had a simple choice.

I could just say,

"yes, you're right.

Men are the enemy."

No problem.

But I couldn't.

I absolutely couldn't.

Just getting overwhelmed,

because...

I don't know...

Where I'm headed

with what I believe,

and what is right

and what is wrong,

and who is wrong

and who is right and...

The truth is somewhere

in the middle

and that's why

I'm feeling frustrated,

because...

I don't know where the truth is,

and I don't know...

When I decided to make a film

on the men's rights movement,

I never anticipated

questioning my feminist views.

But the more MRAs I met,

the more I felt compelled

to remind myself

why I was a feminist.

I signed up for a women's group.

Welcome to our women, own

your power workshop.

Only four percent of the fortune

50d companies are led by women.

Women only hold about 14%

of corporate executive positions

and less than 20% of

our governmental positions.

I made video diaries complaining

about how I had

to change what I wore

to walk alone at night,

how much time it took me

to get ready for work,

all the housekeeping

that was on my shoulders.

In comparison

to other gender issues,

these videos seem trivial,

but I made them nonetheless.

I attended

women's rights rallies.

No to violence.

That's what we are here for,

to say no more

to violence in any form,

especially against women

and girls.

I repeated

women's issues in my head

like a broken record...

Female genital mutilation,

sex trafficking,

reproductive rights,

maternity leave,

and social media helped

remind me of women's issues.

We have fought for everybody's

else's equal rights.

It's our time to have wage

equality once and for all,

and equal rights for women

in the United States of America.

We are struggling

for a uniting word.

But the good news is

that we have a uniting movement.

It is called "he for she."

Whenever I hear

the MRAs' point of view

about how difficult

it is for them,

I immediately go to,

well, what about us?

What is like for us?

And then I get on the defensive

and want to make sure

that women's struggles

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