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to look at our faults,
to tell us that we are doing what we've been
asked to do.
We have done it well.
It doesn't mean we're perfect at it,
but we're working on it.
Right off the top of my head,
I don't think bishops are accountable
enough to people.
They're appointed as a bishop,
the priest council is their own council.
It's not like a legislative body or anything.
They're not evaluated by the parishioners.
Well, part of it goes back
to other situations of this diocese
where, I believe, the administration of
this diocese was protecting and covering for
and enabling people
who I call "faith molesters."
Did you have any priest who counseled you
or met with you, suggested that that would be
a good vocation for you?
- Yeah.
- Who were they?
A priest at Central, through the years.
Bob Donnelly, the Auxiliary Bishop today.
I know that Dennis Gray served with
Robert Donnelly, under Robert Donnelly.
Because I did my deacon internship with...
He was then Father Robert Donnelly.
It was 1979.
Dennis Gray was just being moved.
And I know that they were close.
Did you talk to Donnelly about
wanting to move to Toledo?
- Bishop Donnelly?
- Yeah.
- Sure.
- And what did you say to him?
Objection. Privileged communication.
He wasn't the bishop at the time, was he?
He was a bishop.
- What kind of bishop?
- Auxiliary bishop.
- Where did he stand in the...
- Bishop.
- ...chain of command?
- Number two.
- OK. Did he have authority over you?
- Sure.
I think Bishop Hoffman, Bishop Donnelly,
knew about these accusations on him,
and probably to protect his career,
remained silent and allowed this man
to be around children.
I think any of these bishops like this,
who place - I think across the country -
who place these molesters,
especially these serial molesters,
around kids should resign.
They have no business being bishops
if they play with lives like that.
OK, so I'm wondering
if between the two of you, if that's come up.
We were going out with his family
for a birthday party.
- We hadn't been out together since...
- Since we talked.
...that issue. And then Tony started talking
about the whole church situation,
and I think what made it worse was that
your brother was going to a church function.
So that put Tony in a whole different universe.
I was freaking out. So I said...
to her, across the table,
"Hey, can you come on over
"and sit on this side for a minute
until things get going
"and rub my back for a second?"
Now, I just sat down, I've had a long week.
All I want to do is have a drink
and talk to adults.
I didn't get shitty, I don't think.
- Not at that point.
- I think I just said, you know...
If he happens to be feeling a certain way
or feeling tight,
everything that possibly
going on with me is just...
Too bad! Suck it up!
- You turn invisible.
- "I'm tight, so the world ends."
- Wait a second.
- I really wish that Tony could take
all the stuff that's turning into anger
and do something different with that.
Help people in the Catholic church,
- or, you know, parents, or whatever group...
- Change canon law, leave the church?
If he could do something different with that
rather than get angry and pissed off.
I'm usually pretty good.
I may not be doing it the way you would,
but this is the way that I think
it's going to work for me
I am what I am.
Guess where I am?
That's the arch in St. Louis.
Hey, Barbara. Tony Comes.
Apparently, Claudia already has
a name tag for me?
She has everything for you.
Welcome to the first
national assembly of S.N.A.P.,
the Survivors Network
of those Abused by Priests.
Now, we are going to hear from
our national executive director,
David Clohessy.
Welcome. Welcome to my town.
We're here this weekend
for one simple reason,
and that is to gain
the strength and the skills
to go out and keep doing
what we've been doing, many of us,
for years and years,
which is, to save lives.
I'm going to ask just a couple of people
to break the ice
and if you're comfortable sharing some of what
you shared this afternoon,
please head up to one of the microphones.
Good evening. I'm from Tucson, Arizona.
I was raped by a priest
when I was 11 years old.
Up until that time,
I had one hundred per cent clarity
that God's plan for me was to be a priest.
That plan changed,
because the closest thing I had to God
was that priest that held me down
by the back of the neck
and stuck his penis in my butt.
This is me as a teenager,
at the age when I was abused
by the bishop's director of youth ministry
for the diocese of Toledo.
I remember vividly on this youth trip,
he stopped at a hotel and checked in
with a fake name
and turned to me and said, "I can't believe
I would almost give my real name."
And being naive, like this person in the picture,
I thought, "Why wouldn't you?
"If something happened,
how would they know where we're at?"
My first sexual assaults by a priest
started when I was
somewhere between five and six.
Fast forward to 21, 22...
and like many of us,
I was confided in a priest
who then immediately began an affair with me.
My father himself was a pedophile,
so he started around the age of two
to approximately the age of six,
and then I met Father Geoghegan
who went from six to roughly ten.
So it was kind of natural for me.
I was just nine years old when Father Jim
worked very slowly and methodically
to gain my trust and confidence and silence.
Through the course of it, French kissing,
forced masturbation, oral rape
became the traumas I experienced,
but experienced alone.
My name is Tony Comes.
I'm from Toledo, Ohio.
I'm a 34-year-old father of two.
I'm a Toledo firefighter.
I was abused repeatedly.
I allowed myself to continue to be abused.
I regret the most
that I've always been aware.
And I always said, "If I ever find out
"that someone else was after me,
"it'll kill me."
I thought I was the only one.
You've taken a very brave step,
and we applaud you especially
for having the courage to come out
and be among people who can support you.
It's a very tough first step, and we welcome
you and applaud you for doing that.
And we applaud you for being here.
Can you believe it? How are you?
It's so good to see you.
- Shorter than I remember.
- Just a little bit smaller.
I've been shitting my pants about meeting you.
- It's a gateway to your past.
- So you have not seen each other either?
I've had his number for months,
and every day...
"You should call him."
- I don't know...
- What to say? How to start?
Yeah, it's not a conversation you really want
cos then you have to deal with it
when you talk to that person.
So it's not a conversation you want
to exactly have, but it's a good thing.
I feel very responsible.
- Why?
- Because...
As I felt all along for 20 years,
my biggest fear was,
if I would have spoken up,
somebody else wouldn't have gone through
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