Twist of Faith Page #6

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or feel what I feel.

And I asked myself a thousand times, "Why?"

Do you think that it has a potential

to cause serious long-range harm to a child

when someone in a position of authority

such as a priest

puts their penis in the mouth of that child?

- Yes.

- It has the potential cause serious harm.

- No.

- It doesn't?

- No.

- It doesn't have the potential to cause...

- He's answered the question.

- ...serious harm to the child?

Lack of foundation.

What are you talking about?

Serious, permanent harm to that child.

No, I think... No.

On what grounds do you say it does not?

I don't want to go with medical,

I just say every person's different.

So some children it wouldn't bother,

others it would?

I would think so.

When you go out there

and your parents told you,

"Listen to him and do what he tells you,"

so when he's saying,

"You sleep in this room, you in this room,

you in this room,

- "you and you are in this room with me..."

- No one ever asked,

"Do you sleep in the same bed with him?"

They assumed you were at the cottage.

You know, there were times that I would run.

I would try to hide.

I would try to find people to be around

so I could avoid

going to Father Auth's garage,

or the doctor's house, or his garage...

Wherever he would tell me to go,

I would just try to hide.

But I knew that he would find me.

He was very clever.

In the same vein, when I was getting abused...

when I say, I laid there,

stiff as a board, pardon the pun,

just in agony,

because I could not mentally control

- a natural, physical, biological reaction.

- Physical reaction.

And I was going, "Jesus Christ!

"I have actually achieved an orgasm,

as unfun as it was.

"And it was with a man. I must be queer!

"Holy sh*t! What am I gonna do?"

I had to get as many girls as I could

possibly find

- in order to prove it wrong.

- To prove that wrong.

It ruined, for me...

Well, I mean, for any lack of better term...

any sex I had with any men

for several years after that, because...

the only way I could have a relationship

with someone was to have sex with them.

That was what I thought would

make them like me,

- which I know sounds...

- No.

...really warped. I don't have to tell you that.

But yeah.

See, with me, the first girl that I was with

that wanted to become intimate with me,

I just said,

"Why the hell do you want

to have sex with me?"

She's like, "It's a nice way

to share of ourselves."

I looked at her and said, "Who says I wanted

to share anything with you?

And it took a while for me to realize

that there were girls who went through

similar abuse that I did,

and to them, that's the only way

of offering what they think is special

about them to you.

So tell me something.

If they were to come to us right now

and say, "Here is such and such

of a settlement,

"and that's it - no ties to it..."

- F*** off.

- You'd really say f*** off?

Somebody's admitting they were wrong,

the highest possible person.

But a settlement,

you don't think that's admitting they're wrong?

No, if I take a settlement out of the courts,

they, one, publicly aren't admitting anything

and I want Dennis to admit that he did this,

I want the church to admit

that they covered it up,

I want the church to admit to all the other

cover-ups they have.

And I'll walk away without a dime.

- You pay my legal fees and I'm done.

- I want assurances

there's measures in place so this sh*t

doesn't happen anymore.

I think I would definitely entertain

the settlement, but I...

But you can't tell me that

while you were given a settlement...

Like you, Tony and Matt were given

a group settlement of $20 million.

- "So you should be happy now."

- "And you should be happy now."

It's over. What do you think?

If you f***ing think it's over,

come over to my house

and every night I wake up,

sweating my ass off

because I had a nightmare

because that f***er's face is in my head,

I'll tap you on the forehead and say,

"It's on, it's on!

"Wake up. You get to go with me for

another two hours while I go walking this off."

There's a priest doing confession.

He's sitting in the confessional

and he's got to take a sh*t.

He sees David the janitor walk by

and he says, "Dave, get in here.

"I need you to do me a favor.

"I got to take a sh*t. Do the confessions.

"All the sins are here, the punishments,

just follow the chart.

"Everything's there." A lady comes in,

confesses to adultery, performing oral sex

on somebody other than her husband.

Dave can't find oral sex

on the board anywhere.

He sees one of the altar boys walking by,

he goes, "Tommy."

"Dave, what are you doing in there?"

He says, "I don't have time for idle chatter.

"What does Father usually give

for inappropriate oral sex?"

He goes, "I don't know.

Ice cream and a movie?"

Oh, Tony.

- OK, you've watched big-time wrestling?

- Yes.

And, being a non-athlete,

you'll still be able to get it.

- What's that move called?

- ...move called? It's a half nelson.

What's this move called? It's a full nelson.

What's this move called?

- Father Nelson.

- Father Nelson.

Have you heard that one, Matt?

Thank you for everything.

Buddy, I can't tell you.

- Thank you.

- Thank you.

I would have never recognized you. Never.

Matt is easily recognizable.

You know what? I'm probably a lot better

- than I thought I would have been.

- Me too.

So, the diocese has filed

the motion to dismiss.

They're saying, even if you have a good case,

you brought it way too late,

because the statute of limitations

restricts your right to file

unless you do it within

a certain number of years.

So at this stage, they're going

to take advantage of every single delay.

And that can turn a two-year lawsuit

into an eight-year lawsuit.

They're sinning. I can fit it in I don't know

how many different commandments.

I think if they were truly concerned

about helping the victims,

they would say, "Let's focus

on what really happened

"and look at the merits

and what we should be doing,"

but they're not inclined to do that.

Now, the next thing

is something called canon law,

which is the book of rules

that the Catholic church lives by.

Under canon law, priests are authorized to lie

if it is in the interest of the church,

to protect the church from scandals.

It's called "mental reservation."

I don't know if you've heard of this term.

"Strict mental reservation" means that you can

not answer a question,

you can lie in your answer

in order to protect the interests of the church.

And I think that's probably something

that most people don't realize.

There's a gajillion things

going through my head.

My daughter's having

her f***ing first communion

in 15 days.

If it wasn't going to be hard to say,

"Welcome aboard!" before...

I don't even want to go. I don't want her to go.

- But I'm...

- It's just...

I'm putting her into a group

that, knowing what I just know now,

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