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about Gramacho.

They don't want to go back.

At the beginning

at least I had the impression...

and now I think this is wrong...

that they were happy there.

And I think that it has a lot

to do with denial.

I think that is where you reach

the point where you think about...

should you take them to London?

I think it's quite a...

It's a super delicate question.

If you are starting

to change them already...

just bringing them

to the other studio...

just involving them

in a different lifestyle...

in Rio...

what's going to happen to them

once you take them...

once you put them on a plane?

You were saying oh this is

going to mess with their minds.

Well, maybe...

their minds

need to be messed up with.

But if take them...

and say hello life is different...

you can do this,

you could do that...

Is it realistic enough...

What can they do...

with that afterwards here?

It is really hard for me

to imagine doing something...

that would do much damage

to them.

Do worse than what has been

done to them already.

Why do you have to take somebody's

life and change it forever?

As long as you think

the person can cope with it.

Afterwards.

But if you are not sure

the person can deal with it...

People are fragile.

It is my responsibility.

That's what I think.

Your responsibility.

But let me answer that.

Let me talk.

Let me answer that!

You don't let me talk.

You're saying

it is not my responsibility...

He doesn't let me talk!

I am saying it is.

Let me for one moment...

think about something else here.

These guys are going

to the studio...

and they are saying...

"I don't want

to go back to Gramacho."

Is that something bad

one way or another?

No that's good.

Isn't this good?

Maybe they will have to go

and they will have to think...

of a plan to get out of there.

They get to see another reality.

And that changes

their way of thinking.

It's hard for me.

It changes their way of thinking.

It does.

For some people

it changes their way of thinking...

for some people...

they just go to bed better...

because they think

they did something.

I don't think if I was a catador

in Jardim Gramacho...

and somebody said to me listen

do you want to come do this thing...

work two weeks...

in an artists studio...

making a portrait of yourself...

and by the way we may

take you to a foreign country...

but at the end of all of this...

you'll be back here...

collecting garbage...

would you like to come?

I know that I would say yes.

Got it.

A year of garbage has gone by.

Let's go.

Here's wisdom a plenty,

nineteen is not twenty.

Hi Vik.

It's the Marat that's going?

It's going to be great.

I'm already dreaming

about being there.

I'm going to London,

and you're not.

Hey what are you doing here man?

Check out that long hair!

There's so much excess.

There's so much excess

that it becomes art.

Check out the garbage bag.

Except you can't open it,

it's made of bronze.

Painted bronze.

Can you tell what's in there?

There are definitely yogurt cups,

hearts of palm.

Some boxes.

Looks like someone bought a new

cell phone and threw away the box.

- It looks like I could just pick it up.

- It's great.

This was made by a British artist

named Gavin Turk.

This guy is a really great artist too.

He used to sleep on the streets.

His name is Jean-Michel Basquiat.

This was done by the guy who is

the most expensive living artist,

Damien Hirst.

It's a pharmacy.

Yeah, just drugs on a shelf.

Just drugs.

It will probably go for about

one million dollars.

Dermatological cream.

It is a very fine work.

There is strong demand

for works...

by Vik Muniz.

So I do hope obviously

that his risk...

is going to pay off.

It's going to work out.

Let see.

It's going to work, come on.

It's a very bold step...

for Vik Muniz...

to consign a work...

directly to an auction.

In the past...

artists would go through...

what you call...

the primary market.

They would be sold

for the first time...

in a gallery.

Thank you.

Lot number 225...

Nine Multi-colored Marilyns...

by Andy Warhol

Are you nervous?

I'm really nervous.

Even when Botafogo plays

for the championship.

I don't get this nervous.

Hold on.

Last chance.

Sold. What's your number?

Thank you so much.

It's now, it's now.

Lot number 272.

The great work by Vik Muniz.

Mahrat Sebastio...

Pictures of Garbage

And we will start this...

at ten thousand pounds.

At the far back now.

There is a new bit

Against you, Jenny.

At 25 thousand.

At 28 thousand.

It's against Diego now...

at 28 thousand pounds.

It is at the far back of the room...

at 28 thousand pounds.

Sold.

The most important thing is

what you're going to do with this.

It was all worth it. Everything I did

up until now was really worth it.

Why do you think you are here?

Because once a friend and I had

a dream of creating an association.

We created the association.

It was a crazy dream.

Nobody believed in us.

Not even my family.

Nobody believed in me.

This is only the beginning Tio.

This is only the beginning.

I am so happy.

Are you happy?

God was so good to me,

so wonderful.

You're the strong one.

You are doing everything.

Mom.

We sold it mom.

We sold it for US$50,000.

US$50,000.

I feel like a pop star.

Full.

Yeah.

Now presenting Lenny Kravitz.

I want to propose a toast

to my boss.

- Thank you.

- Thank you.

Careful. This woman is red hot.

Tell me what's changed for you.

I was married

and now I am separated.

But isn't that bad?

Not at all. It's wonderful.

I started to see myself.

Your own beauty?

No as a person really.

Because before I was

just like a little mule.

This job was great. It was really

good and important to me.

I knew how much I made.

We would weigh the material

every day.

We supposedly worked together,

but my share was always less.

He thought

I should be submissive.

But it doesn't work like that.

That was the biggest

change in my life.

That's what this job brought to me.

The will to change.

So that's the story, this work

brought me this realization.

What did you think of modern art

before you went to the auction?

I used to think it was crap.

Why'd you think it was crap?

Because I think a lot of things

aren't really art.

Why don't you think it's art?

Because you don't get it?

Because I don't get it and

it's totally meaningless.

But do you think you have

to get it, for it to be art?

I think it has to communicate

something at least.

After you told me

the story about...

Jean-Michel.

Jean-Michel Basquiat.

Yeah, I started liking

his stuff a lot more.

I began to understand his kind of

sinister style.

It's a bit childish, like monsters.

I started to understand it

and I liked it.

But if you're saying you liked

it better after you understood it...

then maybe we just don't like

things we don't understand.

Of course, you can dislike something

because you haven't tried it.

For example, you were always

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