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What Our Fathers Did: A Nazi Legacy Page #3
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so I was sitting,
looking at my father behind the window,
Hi. Nicki, it's a pleasure to see you,
soon we win celebrate a really great
Christmas together at Schoberhof. "
And I was thinking, "Why is he lying?
"Why is he lying?
He knows that he will be hanged. "
And I was unbelievable disappointed.
My father he was staying
four years in the mountains, always hidden.
My mother brought him food and equipment
for the winter, for the summer and so on.
My mother was of course still a Nazi lady
so when the American soldiers
moved into our house
they asked my mother, "Are you a Nazi?"
And my mother said, "Yes, I am Nazi. "
And then they said, "Oh, you're the first person
we met who said she is a Nazi. "
- 80...
And she was proud?
Yes, of course she was proud.
She was convinced that my father was right
and did the right things,
never one word that she spoke bad about him.
Then he came to live with us,
I think it was two weeks or so
and she said to us, smaller children,
that's an uncle from South America
or whatever.
He had a little mustache
and, hmm, he came up to see us
when we were sleeping in our beds,
I remember.
And that is the only contact
with my father I can remember.
He had good connections to the Vatican.
He found refuge
in some religious institution there
and, hmm. he died very quick there.
- Oh, my God.
- Here she is,
the queen of Poland, my mother.
It was painted in 1935'
- Did they still love each other then?
- Yes.
Or some adultery,
but not so heavy ones, lighter.
And when it was over
it was a big glory of the Frank family,
she said, "OK, now it's over.
"Now I have to work my ass off
and she died at the age of 63,
completely worn out.
A very clear picture about the Frank family
and what I have done
and, hmm, what they have connected to
when I saw the first pictures, photographs
in the newspapers, hmm,
there I saw mountains of corpses
and also children of my age then.
And it was always written, underlined, Poland.
And what happened to me is that,
you really get the shock
because I always thought Poland is ours.
Of course I felt guilty
because of m y father somehow.
Of course, because you knew them.
More or less,
it started all this horrible things,
came into public what happened
and it was not...
After immediately...
Immediately after the war there was...
Nobody talk about this.
Talked and wrote.
The difficulties started later.
to become a lawyer, of course,
like my father.
She was very disappointed
because when I said,
"No, finished. I don't study any more.
I go into the woods. Bye-bye, Mother. "
And of course she was very shocked.
Then she got this professor friend
and this friend said to me,
"Oh, Horst, you don't have to do anything,
"you will be professor/doctor.
"You just have to inscribe
in Salzburg at the university,"
and there you had
all these friends of my father's
and well of course I refused this thing
and I said, "I must find my own way. "
I was closing up and I was very insecure.
At this certain moment I said to my friend,
that I want to serve somebody,
I want to... Like a servant.
I really, I have to be of any use to somebody.
And then they said, "Oh, I know
a crazy painter, he needs somebody. "
When I saw Hundertwasser the first time
I knew that he would need me
and! would go along with him quite well
because he was also a shy person like me
and somehow that he was Jewish that was
of course very good for my feelings too.
Then I went sailing the boat to New Zealand,
that was his new paradise.
Perhaps, also with you
because you were Jewish.
Somehow this being Jewish
is something very attractive for me.
And in the beginning
when I met Hundertwasser
his mother was afraid of me of course
because she knew who my father was.
And she was, uh,
with all her experiences in the war,
when she had to run around with
at the start of it.
The question of
the historical responsibility of m y father
is a very complex one
Germans being superman
and the others being
one dimension
right from the beginning.
He was absolutely somebody
who wanted to do something good,
and he wanted to get something moving
and find some solution
about all these problems.
Who arose after the first war and tried...
He was a complete optimist.
My father really
had deserved to die at the gallows
for what he has done, he deserved it.
Besides photos of my beloved family,
I always wear with me
the last picture of my father when he was...
After he was hanged.
He has a swollen eye so maybe
he crashed against the trap door.
On the one hand,
yeah, to be sure that he's really dead
but on the other hand,
and this is what haunts me all my life,
the Germans know exactly what can happen
if you are losing civil courage,
if you are losing democracy,
it leads to...
Can lead to extermination camps.
So we know this by heart because
we have done it, the Germans,
and people of his merciless
kind of living and killing
The article I had written to the
Financial Times attracted a tot of interest,
the newspaper offered to stage a public event
at which Horst and Niklas could
present their views side by side
and I was surprised when they both agreed.
(SPEAKING GERMAN)
The two men had much in common
with similar backgrounds
yet, seeing each on his own
that they had very different attitudes
to their fathers.
Niklas is a more polished
and prepared individual,
Horst has just opened himself up,
he's never been through anything like this,
he's never had this kind of scrutiny.
Horst, let's... Let's turn to you.
May I first introduce, hmm, have some words?
Absolutely. Please do.
Yes, I am very grateful that I can be here.
That kind of listening and hearing
would be impossible in Austria,
there would be...
Well we don't know anything about Nazis
and we don't want to know anything and so...
I'd come to learn that Niklas
didn't like to miss any opportunity
to attack his father and to do so publicly.
it was less clear to me
why he would want to
expose himself publicly.
Both of our fathers were
heavily involved, heavily.
You told me once
I should make peace with my father,
I have peace with my father
because I acknowledged his crimes
and so I could lead a really good life.
And you, you're struggling for what?
To fight also against your father,
sorry, dear friend.
Well, I think I see it different.
I see the structure of the whole
annihilation of Jews
and what happens they are quite different.
And I didn't look for peace
it's just I felt it's my duty as a son
to put things straight with my father
and I see who was really responsible.
But it doesn't make your father innocent
if he's not quite responsible.
They worked together,
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