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it had got in my clothes, and

I just couldn't go to church

smelling like hogs, you know,

I just couldn't do it,

so I don't think

the government cares.

They care more about

corporations than they

do peoples, individuals.

They're gonna put

more chickens in this state.

This is the feces and

urine capital of the world

right here in North Carolina,

my state.

Look, there's a

blue-line stream right here

comes right across into my property almost

and the Contentnea Creek right there.

I've seen that blue-line stream now filled

with feces and urine from that hog pen,

and they can say,

"Well, we feed the world."

They're not interested in feeding the

world, they're interested in making money.

You take the money away from them,

they'll let the folks starve.

'Cause if you want to feed the world,

you can feed the world with more corn,

using corn and wheat and stuff

like that than you can meat.

Meat is a luxury item.

When we are doing things that

hurt other people, we are wrong.

But, a lot of good people

will sit there and eat bacon

knowing that it's causing someone

else to be very unhappy.

[Kip] I woke up

the next morning to find

the Burnt River had experienced

another massive fish kill

from the pollution running

off hog farms.

Tens of thousands of fish

were washing up on shore.

All this talk about health,

I realized that I was only

focused on personal health.

But, health started to

mean so much more to me.

It was about health of my

family and our communities.

I couldn't

under good conscience

support an industry that

I knew was harming others.

Pollution from

animal agriculture

isn't just an issue in

North Carolina, though.

Raising animals for food

produces more greenhouse gases

than the entire

transportation sector.

It is a leading cause of

rainforest destruction,

species extinction, ocean dead

zones and freshwater consumption.

American Diabetes Association

actually finally got back,

and they agreed

to an interview.

Preparing for the American

Diabetes Association interview,

I took a look at their diabetes

diet meal plan recommendations,

and they were loaded with foods

associated with causing diabetes.

How could they expect

people not to get diabetes

if this was the food

they were recommending?

And then, I saw multiple

peer-reviewed studies

published on the National

Institute of Health website

showing that a low-fat

plant-based diet

was more than twice as

powerful at controlling

and even reversing diabetes

than the ADA recommended diet

that included meat and dairy.

The mission of the American

Diabetes Association is

to identify a prevention

and a cure for diabetes.

But, in the meantime, to improve

the lives of all people

who are affected by diabetes.

And what's the best way

to prevent this?

For type two diabetes,

it's unclear.

We can't prevent type two

diabetes in everybody.

We were doing research, we came

across a lot of studies that said

that you actually could

potentially cure

or reverse diabetes with

a purely plant-based diet.

I don't believe there's sufficient

evidence to demonstrate that.

How does it compare to the

ADA diet that you recommend?

We don't recommend a specific diet,

we recommend healthy eating.

The one that's on the website.

We recommend healthy eating.

There is...

Do you have a whole

list of exact day-to-day,

the meal plan,

the whole meal plan?

All they are are selections

of foods to consider.

We do not have

a diabetes diet.

But, with that, selections

that you consider,

that plan compared to

an all plant-based plan.

No one's done that study.

We found, actually,

some studies.

A 74-week study found that low-fat

vegan diet versus the ADA plan,

in type two diabetes...

I think we're done here.

I'm not gonna get into

an argument about...

Oh, no, I just wanted

the studies of,

if this is true or,

if it shows that.

Any diet works.

Any diet works

if people follow it.

But, if it's a diet

that's not the proper diet,

like if anyone follows a diet

that they eat McDonald's...

I can't tell you

what a proper diet is.

I can tell you

what an improper diet is.

So, then we can talk about the good diets.

I'm not sure why...

I'm not gonna get into that.

- Into diet?

- No.

Why not?

If that's where you

want to go with this,

I'm sorry, I'm not the person

that you should be talking to.

And why is that, though?

If that's what you want to

get into, I'm not the person

- you need to be talking to.

- Into diet?

Who do we talk to about diet?

You can talk to

anybody you want.

But, that's interesting, though,

why not recommend a diet...

Because the data don't

exist to support it.

But, if we see data

that we looked up,

that supports it with

the NIH, in Europe,

the European Association of...

We're done.

We're done. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna

get into that argument with you.

No, I'm just wondering,

but, I...

I'm not gonna get into

the argument with you.

Why is it in argument?

It's just to talking about

in European study of diabetes

and other places that have

studies, why...

There are lots of studies...

Why is it even

an argument, I guess?

There are lots of

studies in the literature.

Many of which have never been

replicated or frankly, are wrong.

That's why we do

peer review, okay?

The European Association

of Study of Diabetes

has been peer-reviewed

or, the...

I don't know what study

you're referring to,

and in the absence of being

able to see that study,

I'm not gonna comment.

I could show it to you.

I'm sorry, I don't

have the time for that.

I just don't understand why it's

an argument, though, or, okay.

That was interesting.

What he wanted to talk about was

people living longer with diabetes,

but, once you mention eliminating

diabetes or, prevention,

oh, now you crossed the line.

Prevention and cure... Whoa.

Let's not go there.

[Kip] Not only did Dr. Ratner,

the chief medical officer

of the American Diabetes Association

not want to talk about diet,

but, the fact that he had

such an emotional reaction

to my question made it feel

I was digging into something

that he didn't want uncovered.

I had always thought there was no

prevention for type one diabetes.

But, then,

I did research and came across

countless studies

referencing the link between

exposure to dairy at a young

age and type one diabetes.

[McDougall] This is a food

made for baby cows.

Cow milk protein gets

into the bloodstream,

and the body says, "Hey, this isn't

supposed to be in the bloodstream."

It makes antibodies to

the cow milk protein

which then attack the pancreas

and destroy the pancreas.

[Kip] How is this possible that ADA wouldn't

have this forefront on their website?

Why wouldn't they be warning

all parents about this

even if there were

only a slight chance?

Why were they

recommending people

to actually eat these

foods linked to diabetes?

It seemed all of the

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