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children value that

more than anything.

Unconditionally,

you giving them your time.

Well, if I can't be

an astronaut,

I'd like to be a Bridewell

sergeant in the police force,

like my dad is.

So are you under pressure

to get a job?

Yeah, I suspect I am

from my parents.

Keep dropping hints.

Teachers are undervalued

and underrated.

And the system's

beginning to crumble.

You know, people outside of it

don't realize that, but it is.

And it's...

it's very disillusioning.

I left teaching not long after

that program.

And it was actually nothing

to do with the program.

That was a misunderstanding

at the time,

I think, which took hold

in the press.

I'd been planning to leave

teaching anyway.

And I just didn't see

a long-term future in it

for myself.

And I thought I had been honest

with myself about that

and honest to the kids I was

teaching at the time

and move on

to something else.

After teaching,

Peter studied law

and joined

the civil service.

Gabby also works there.

Civil service, despite changes

currently taking place,

is still comparatively

a pretty decent employer.

What area of

the civil service are you in?

Department of Work

and Pensions.

I've changed the key...

an F sharp, sorry about that.

When Pete writes,

he often wants to share that

and at a fairly early stage talk

about what he's writing.

And if it's no good,

I have to tell him.

And that's quite difficult,

isn't it?

I'm sure it is, yeah.

She was running down roads

I didn't know

So when we started work

on the album we're doing now,

Pete said to me, "I've got 120

song ideas to go through,"

and I said, "But of those 120,

we need to get it down

to about 10 so I'm going to have

to tell you

that 110 are no good. "

How do you take

criticism?

Well, I think I take it

better than I used to.

That's not setting the bar

very high, though.

No.

What have been for you

the best times?

Tommy Smith scoring

the second goal in Rome.

Definitely.

One of the all-times.

Which game was that?

That was the European Cup final,

That's still up there,

by the way.

But along with what?

But, well...

Um...

Getting married

for the second time

and having

two children

have been hugely significant

moments in my life.

What do you want

out of life?

The satisfaction of knowing

that I've left

some sort of imprint

rather than just lived out

my life.

You've been gone

for so long, Evangeline

No one's looking for you

anymore

I hesitate to say I think I have

made my mark now,

because that sounds

horrendously vain.

But I've created a body of work

of which I feel very proud.

I feel I've achieved something

of lasting value.

And in the last two

or three years,

we have begun to become

reasonably successful

in terms of

critical responses.

We were voted the U.K.'s

Americana Act of the Year

at the British

Country Music Awards.

From time to time,

like anybody else,

I look back and think,

"I wish I hadn't done that,

I wish I'd done that

differently," but I don't think

really life is there

to be regretted.

Life is there to be lived, and I

feel the most important thing

is to feel that by and large

you haven't

compromised too much

and that you've

moved your life on

where you want

your life to go.

I would like to get married

when I grow up.

Well, I don't know

what sort of boy,

but I think one that...

That's not got a lot of money,

but has got some money,

not a lot.

Jackie grew up

in London's East End.

Have you got

any boyfriends?

That's personal, isn't it?

By the time she was 21,

Jackie had married Mick

and moved to the outskirts

of London.

She and Mick had decided

early on

that they didn't want

to have children.

Basically, I would say that

would be far too selfish.

By 35, she was divorced.

We decided ourselves, I mean,

just between the two of us.

We knew it wasn't going

any further.

We both knew, I think,

at the end of the day,

we would be happier

leading our own lives.

Oh...

And this one on, oh, yeah.

Here we go.

Had a brief but very sweet

relationship,

the result of which

was Charlie.

I don't really want

Charlie to be an only.

I'd love him to

have brothers and sisters.

But not necessarily

loads of them.

One would do, actually.

Right, Charlie, there's yours.

Ooh!

Please eat it all up.

Oh!

And, James.

Thanks, Mum.

Good boy.

And last but not least...

You going to eat

that one for me?

After her relationship with

Charlie's father ended,

she met Ian, and they moved

to Scotland and had two sons.

James.

By 42, they had split up.

Lee.

Go and get 'em!

At 49, despite the split,

the family were living

in the same area

of Scotland.

Seven years later,

they're still there.

So tell me

who lives where.

Um, Lee will be here

until October.

James is here

until he moves in with

his girlfriend,

which I'm hoping

won't be too long.

Charlie's actually

already moved out

because of his dad.

Or their dad,

I should say.

Um, because Ian's been

diagnosed with cancer.

And it's stage four,

so it's quite advanced.

The strange part about this is,

his mother has also got

cancer as well.

Your grandmother?

Their grandmother.

Come on, swans!

She's brilliant.

If I could have chosen

a mother-in-law,

she was the one

I would have chosen.

She's great for me,

she's absolutely brilliant with the children.

And she's just always there when

I need her to be.

She's terminal.

How long has she got?

Don't know.

They don't know how long.

I think they're talking months

rather than years.

And to have mother and son

suffering the same sort of thing

is very difficult.

She doesn't want us

to be sorry

and be sad, she wants us

to go on and live our lives

and it's not stopped her

from trying to live her life.

It seems to have been

one thing after another.

My stepmom died,

my brother-in-law died,

my sister's died.

She wasn't 50.

She'd actually gone downstairs

and made herself a cup of tea

and collapsed on her way back up

to her bedroom

with a major brain hemorrhage.

So, boys, how is your

mother handling all this?

Uh, in her stride.

Nothing seems to be getting

to her.

She's always been

a strong woman.

She will be upset, but she won't

let us see it.

She's always a brave face

in front of us,

and then when she's alone

or with her friends,

that's when she

gets the sadness out.

This is a period when

the four of you feel close?

All:
Mm-hmm.

Got to be there for each other

in things like this.

Actually, I would say

in the last six months,

they've all suddenly seemed to

have gotten maturity.

My mum, 'cause she got

five girls,

she has seven years bad luck.

That's why she's got five girls.

Two club sandwiches

on brown bread,

one Hilton burger with cheese.

Yes, chef.

Charlie is a sous chef

in a nearby hotel.

And James works part-time

as a security guard

in a local supermarket.

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