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and they would like you

to come in with us to the UN.

Okay.

If you come now, it's lunchtime,

but they're gonna let us in.

No one else can get in.

Okay.

At the UNHCR there are

separate exits from the building

so we have a good opportunity,

if any of the media

finds out you're there...

Yeah.

...you'll be able to exit

a different way from the building.

Okay, that's great.

Is it okay if I bring equipment?

'Cause I'm just kind of going

so I can leave in any direction

at any time

and not come back, if necessary.

Just walk out of there.

You don't have to go back.

Okay.

Take whatever you want with you,

and just go with Mr. Man.

I will pick you... he knows where

I'm gonna pick you guys up,

and then I'll bring you to the UNHCR.

Okay, that sounds good.

Thank you, uh, thank you

so much for helping me.

He's quite worried about the next step,

about accommodation,

where he is going to stay,

whether there is something private and

he would not be discovered by the police.

Don't worry about that now.

Let's just get him to the UN.

Okay, I see.

Okay, I will give you a call

before we start, okay?

- Okay, thank you.

- Okay, thank you.

- Bye-bye.

- Bye.

So...

We don't have a car.

Okay.

What I'm thinking...

we may ask the concierge

to arrange a car,

or we just go down and catch a taxi.

But it's quite...

The traffic here in Tsim Sha Tsui

is quite difficult to get a taxi.

Yeah...

And so is there a precedent for this,

where Hong Kong would extradite

someone for political speech?

No, I'm not aware of.

But if we have a torture claim

or asylum-seeking claim,

then they ought, under the law,

they ought to give you recognizance

for you to stay in Hong Kong

because they don't know

where to dump you back yet.

The president certainly

does not welcome the way

that this debate has earned

greater attention in the last week,

the leak of classified information

about sensitive programs

that are important in our fight

against terrorists

who would do harm to Americans,

is a problem.

But the debate itself is legitimate

and should be engaged.

"The US Spied on Millions of

Brazilian Emails and Phone Calls"

I'd like to show you

the new document now.

You'll see it much more clearly.

This map shows the cables they use

to collect the data for PRISM.

Here it shows how much

they are collecting.

The thicker the line,

the more they're collecting.

You can see these lines,

the cables, are quite thick

in the south of Brazil

and up north in the Sea of Brazil.

So they're collecting a lot

through the PRISM program,

which I think is very important

because PRISM is Facebook,

Skype, YouTube, Yahoo, Hotmail.

And it shows a lot

is being stolen from Brazil.

But we don't know how much

the Brazilian government knows,

or whether it's collaborating

with Brazilian companies.

But we're going to know, I believe.

One day we will know everything.

Or almost everything.

Yes.

All right, so which ones

do we want here, then?

This is operational stuff,

so we mustn't say any of this...

So redact that.

Go... go to top.

What about the Alexander quote?

Yeah, that's in TARMAC.

"Why can't we collect

all the signals all the time?

Sounds like a good summer

homework project for Menwith."

Keith Alexander, the head of the NSA,

on a visit to UK.

- This one.

- Yeah.

Secret document, isn't it?

Secret document.

We've got a stick here that should

just have three single slides on them.

If it's got more than three single slides,

we have to be extremely careful.

- Yeah?

- Yeah, that's it.

This is really dangerous

stuff for us, The Guardian, isn't it?

You make mistakes and at the very end

where we kept it all under lock and key...

And no one knows. I'm not saying that...

They will come in and smack

the front door down if we...

if we elaborate on that.

He said the Prime Minister's

extremely concerned about this.

And they kept saying,

"This is from the very top."

As you can see on this map,

the flight that reportedly

has Snowden aboard

has almost reached

its destination here in Moscow,

scheduled to land in the

Russian capital within minutes.

As you may have heard,

there is a CIA Agent

who has revealed a lot of information,

and he is now trapped in the,

um, the airport in Moscow.

We managed to get him out of Hong Kong,

but when he landed

in the Moscow airport,

the American government

had canceled his passport.

So, formally, he hasn't

entered into Russian territory.

He is in the transit area

of the airport,

and one of our people

is accompanying him.

We are trying to arrange

a private jet to, um

take him from Moscow to Ecuador

or perhaps maybe Venezuela

or maybe Iceland,

countries where he will be safe.

The floor is yours,

for the time that you deem necessary.

Thank you and hello.

First of all, Americans' justification

for everything

since the September 11 attacks

is terrorism.

Everything is in the name

of national security,

to protect our population.

In reality, it's the opposite.

A lot of the documents

have nothing to do with

terrorism or national security,

but with competition between countries,

and with companies' industrial,

financial, or economic issues.

Secondly, there's XKeyscore.

When we first started

publishing articles,

the US government's defense

was that it was not invading

the content of communications,

just taking the metadata.

That means the names

of the people talking,

who is calling whom, call durations.

But if I know all the people

you are communicating with,

and everyone

they are communicating with,

where you are

when you are communicating,

the call duration and the location,

then I can learn a lot

about your personality,

your activity, and your life.

This is a major invasion of privacy.

In reality, that defense

is totally false.

The US government has the ability

to get not only metadata,

but the actual content of your emails

or what you say on the phone,

the words you type into Google searches,

the websites you visit,

the documents you send to colleagues.

This system can track nearly everything

that every individual is doing online.

So if you're a journalist investigating

the American government,

if you work for a company

with American competitors,

or if you work in human rights

involving the American government,

or any other field,

they can very easily

intercept your communication.

If you're an American living in the US,

they have to seek permission

from a court,

but they always get it.

But if you're not American,

they don't need anything,

no special permission at all.

I think the consequences of eliminating

privacy are difficult to predict,

but we must understand that this

will have an enormous impact.

The population's ability

to have demonstrations

or to organize is greatly reduced

when people don't have privacy.

May I collect all phones, please?

Okay.

I have everything here, so...

Put them in the refrigerator.

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