Citizenfour Page #9

where we're going,

how in depth are we going,

just in general,

like 'I'm currently

an infrastructure analyst

you know, Booz Allen Hamilton,

not going through

my whole back story...'

- Yeah.

- Okay.

Just like, yeah, summary kind of...

Okay.

Uh, My name's Ed Snowden,

I'm, uh, 29 years old,

I work for Booz Allen Hamilton

as an infrastructure analyst

for NSA, uh, in Hawaii.

And what are some of the positions

that you held previously within

the intelligence community?

Uh, I've been, uh, a systems engineer,

systems administrator,

uh, senior advisor, uh, for the, uh,

Central Intelligence Agency,

solutions consultant and a, uh,

telecommunications informations

systems officer.

And what kind of clearances have...

have you held,

what kind of classification?

Uh, Top Secret, uh... Hm...

So people in my levels of access

for systems administration

or as a... a infrastructure analyst,

typically have, uh, higher accesses

than an NSA employee

would normally have.

Normal NSA employees have

a combination of clearances

called TS, SI, TK, and Gamma.

Um, that's Top Secret,

uh, Signals Intelligence,

Talent Keyhole, and Gamma.

And they all,

uh, relate to certain things

that are sort of core

to the NSA mission.

As a systems administrator,

you get a special clearance

called PRIVAC,

for Privileged Access,

which allows you to be exposed

to information of any classification,

regardless of what your position

actually needs.

Just before we go,

a reminder of our top story,

that's that

the former CIA technical worker

Edward Snowden says he's responsible

for leaking information

that US authorities had been

monitoring phone and Internet data.

The US Justice Department confirmed

it's in the first stages

of a criminal investigation.

Leave it longer or cut it shorter,

what do you think?

As far as the video that people saw?

- Am I less identifiable now?

- Lose it?

Cause I can't go all the way down.

It's still gonna be stubble.

I don't have the blade for closer.

Will you be talking to any

other media about this story today?

I am.

Will you be coming to our

office at Associated Press?

We'd be interested to ask about where

is Snowden now, what his plans are.

I'm not going to talk about that,

so unless you have other questions,

it's gonna be a fruitless interview.

What are your plans, please?

Are you staying in Hong Kong

for the time being?

For a little while.

And do you have any hopes

to write more about this story,

or are you stopping

new writing about this story?

No, I'm gonna continue

to write about it.

Have you had any pressure

from the US authorities

- about continuing to report on this?

- No.

And have you heard anything

about what could be the attitude

of Hong Kong authorities

towards this case,

whether they've contacted you

or asked you anything about

the whereabouts of Snowden

and whether that is another...

I haven't heard from the authorities

of any government.

And where do you think

the story is going, for you

and of course for Snowden,

and of course for the US media

and the US administration in general?

Well, for me I can tell, I'm

gonna continue to report on...

do my reporting on what

the government has been doing

and what I think my readers

should know about.

Um, as for him, I don't...

I don't think anyone knows.

They could have people come after me

or any of their third-party partners.

You know, they work closely

with a number of other nations.

Or, you know,

they could pay off the triads.

You know, any of their agents or assets,

uh... we have a CIA station

just up the road,

at the consulate here in Hong Kong.

Hello, I'm Daniela Ritorto.

The top story this hour:

facing a criminal investigation,

the whistleblower who revealed details

on how the US is monitoring phone

calls and Internet data goes public.

Security forces in Afghanistan

say a number of Taliban insurgents

have targeted Kabul's airport.

Now it's time for our newspaper review

and looking at what's making

headlines around the world.

Let's start with The Guardian,

our top story,

which is revealing the identity

of the former CIA employee

who the paper says leaked information

exposing the scale of American

surveillance of the Internet.

Edward Snowden.

What a great story.

Kira, Ewen, what do you think?

Well, I think it's a fantastic story...

first off, it could be straight

out of a John Le Carre novel.

I mean, when you read what he did,

yes, he got the material.

He then decided to go

to the place he identified

as being very difficult

for America to get at him...

God damn it.

...which is Hong Kong, because,

of course, technically inside China,

the one country,

two systems policy there,

meaning he would get potentially

some protection abroad.

All very well-planned. It could have

been just out of a spy novel.

But what about the details?

Well, that could make it worse, but...

I don't know, only shows

the lower half of my face.

Snowden says he'd become

increasingly dismayed

by what he saw as

the growing power of the NSA,

hence his decision to pass on documents

which are said to reveal

not only that the organization

monitored millions of phone calls,

but that it had direct access

to some of the biggest...

How do you feel?

Um...

what happens, happens.

We've, uh, we've talked about this.

I knew what the risks were.

If I get arrested, I get arrested.

Um...

We were able to get the information,

uh, that needed to get out, out.

And you and Glenn

are able to keep reporting,

regardless of what happens to me.

Now what 29-year-old

Edward Snowden said that US...

The Guardian newspaper

reveals his identity...

Yes?

...from Washington,

David Willis has this.

Uh, I'm sorry, who's asking?

Uh, I'm afraid you have the wrong room.

Thank you.

Wall Street Journal.

Yes?

Uh, I'm sorry, say again?

Uh, no. No thank you. No calls.

I think they have the wrong number.

Yeah, no calls. Thank you.

Uh, wait, I'm sorry.

If it's uh, if it's two men

from the front desk,

they can call, but no outside calls...

Wait, actually, just let them through.

Wait, wait, ma'am? F***!

Yes?

Uh, wait, is it... is it a lawyer?

Yeah, no, no, no, I mean

the people who are asking,

ask them if they are lawyers.

Uh, no. Tell her that, uh,

she has the wrong number

and there's no Mr. Snowden here.

Hi, Robert, can you talk right now?

I safely got into the room.

I'm now safely with the client, okay?

So, can we talk together about the plan?

Did this application start already

or what? Technically?

Yeah, but...

So technically it hasn't started yet.

Would you mind to talk in speakerphone?

Sorry.

Hey, Robert.

Yeah, hi.

Hi, I'm the client.

Hi, Edward, how are you holding up?

Uh, pretty good. I'm doing well.

Okay, I just met with the head

of the UNHCR here in Hong Kong,

and they are aware that you are raising

the protection you are entitled to

under the UNHCR and

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