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JAMIE GILLIS.

DID THEY HURT YOU?

NO.

LET ME SEE IF THEY HURT YOU.

THEY STUCK THE BOTTLE--

DID THEY HURT YOU WITH--

DID THEY HURT YOU WITH THE

BOTTLE WHEN THEY-- WHEN THEY

SHOVED IT IN?

HE'S NOT THERE TO HELP ME,

HE'S THERE TO JERK OFF ON ME,

YOU KNOW?

SICK, TWISTED JAMIE GILLIS.

HE WASN'T INTERESTED IN

DEGRADING ANYBODY, YOU KNOW?

CHUCK'S IDEA OF A GREAT TIME

WAS TO-- TO HAVE FUN.

(LAUGHING)

COME ON, YOU GUYS ARE ANIMALS.

TAKE A BREAK ALREADY.

IT DIDN'T FIT INTO ANY CATEGORY.

SO CHUCK REALLY WENT OU ON A LIMB TO MAKE THIS.

IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MOVIES

WHERE EVERYBODY WASN'T RUNNING

AROUND, GOING "F*** ME, F*** ME,

F*** ME."

IN THE END OF THE 1970s,

THEATRICAL PORN FILMS

BEGIN TO STRUGGLE.

OBSCENITY PROSECUTIONS ROSE,

ZONING LAWS HAD FORCED ADUL THEATERS INTO THE WORS NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE PORN CHIC

THAT FUELED TICKET SALES

DIED OUT.

BUT THERE WAS A NEW FRONTIER

OPENING FOR ADULT MOVIE

PRODUCERS-- THE VCR WAS ABOU TO REDEFINE THE PORN INDUSTRY

WHEN DID PEOPLE STAR TO BUY VHS's?

WHEN WAS THAT STARTING TO BE

THE NORM VERSUS, UH,

GOING TO THE THEATER?

IN THE MID-'70s, THE MACHINES

CAME OUT, AND PEOPLE THOUGH THIS WAS THE GREATEST INVENTION

AND THEY HAD TO HAVE ONE--

YOU HAD TO GO OUT.

BUT, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY WERE

EXPENSIVE. THEY WERE

$1,000 A MACHINE.

AND THE MOVIES THEMSELVES

WERE $95.

THEY WOULD HAVE PARTIES, THOUGH.

THEY WOULD GO IN AND CHIP IN

THERE WAS MORE WORK THAN--

THAN GIRLS IN THE BUSINESS.

LIKE, THERE WERE, LIKE, 12 OF US

REALLY IN THE BUSINESS,

IT SEEMED, AND I THINK WE ALL

I MEAN, IT WAS JUST-- THE--

THE PRODUCERS COULDN'T GE ENOUGH GIRLS.

SO WHAT WAS IT LIKE

SHOOTING-- WHAT WAS A DAY ONSE LIKE BACK THEN?

UM, LET'S SEE, THERE WAS

USUALLY A SCRIPT, LIKE, A

20-PAGE SCRIPT, WHICH ALWAYS

IRRITATED ME, 'CAUSE I WAS NO GOOD AT MEMORIZING THINGS.

IT WAS ALWAYS SHOT AT, LIKE,

A REALLY NICE HOUSE,

THE LOCATION-- NOT ALWAYS, BU FOR THE MOST PART IT WAS, YOU

KNOW, SHOT IN REALLY NICE HOUSES

UP IN PORN VALLEY SOMEWHERE.

THEY ALWAYS HAD CATERING,

HAIR, AND MAKEUP.

I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE-- IN A WEIRD

WAY, IT WAS KINDA LIKE BEING ON

A REAL MOVIE SET, ONLY WE WERE

NAKED HAVING SEX.

YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE

PLAYBACK AT-- ON THE SET.

IT WAS LIKE A WHOLE NEW WORLD.

BUT THE VIDEO QUALITY IN THOSE

DAYS WAS NOT THE BEST.

BUT EVERYBODY WANTED TO DO I BECAUSE IT WAS CHEAP,

IT WAS QUICK, IT WAS PAINLESS.

SO, AS A PERFORMER, WHAT...

DID THE CONSUMERS

SORT OF EXPECT FROM YOU?

LIKE, WERE YOU GUYS SHOOTING

A LOT OF CRAZY SEX ACTS?

NUDITY. NO.

OR DID THEY WANT YOU TO BE

A GOOD ACTRESS? DID THEY CARE?

DID THEY JUST WANNA SEE YOUR--

I THINK, IN 1984, THEY WERE

JUST HAPPY THAT THEY COULD WATCH

A FILM IN THEIR HOUSE OF A NAKED

GIRL SUCKING A GUY'S DICK.

LIKE, THERE WAS DEFINITELY NO

CRAZY SEX ACTS LIKE THERE ARE--

I MEAN, IT WAS KINDA LIKE, YOU

KNOW, THE TYPICAL THREE

POSITIONS, HEAD, HIM EATING ME

OUT, BUT IT WASN'T CRAZY SEX.

I REALLY THINK, BACK IN '84,

PEOPLE WERE JUST SO HAPPY THA THEY COULD WATCH PEOPLE HAVE SEX

GOOD EVENING, MUTANTS

AND MUTETTES, AND WELCOME TO

THE STORYLINE IS THERE'S BEEN

THING AND, IN THE WAKE OF THAT,

STILL STAND THE TOUCH OF ANOTHER

HUMAN BEING, AND THE REST OF

THEM CAN'T.

TRUST ME, FOLKS, I KNOW WHA YOU WANT, AND I KNOW WHAT I FEELS LIKE WHEN YOU DON' GET IT.

NEED IS MY FIX, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN.

AND SO THE PEOPLE WHO CAN

TOUCH OTHER PEOPLE AND,

THEREFORE, HAVE SEX ARE FORCED

TO STAGE THESE LIVE SEX SHOWS

FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T HAVE

SEX LIKE THAT.

IT'S, LIKE, WEIRD AND

EXPERIMENTAL, BUT THEN IT'S GO THIS VERY OBVIOUS METAPHOR

ABOUT PORNOGRAPHY AND ITS PLACE

IN THE WORLD.

LEAVING SO SOON, FRIEND?

FEELING A LITTLE QUEASY?

LIVE THEATER, ON THE OTHER

HAND, AND THE HISTORY OF LIVE

THEATER, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF

WHERE "CAFE FLESH'S" REFERENCES

PROBABLY CAME FROM.

"CAFE FLESH" STANDS THE TES OF TIME BECAUSE IT'S A PORNO

ABOUT PORNO.

IT, IT VERY MUCH IS WHAT IT IS,

AND THERE'S SOMETHING SO

WONDERFULLY HONEST ABOUT IT.

BUT THEN IT'S GOT ALL OF THE

OTHER LAYERS, SO IT REMAINS

INTERESTING.

I MEAN, YOU WATCH IT SIX OR

SEVEN TIMES, YOU'RE STILL GONNA

DOES IT EVER BOTHER YOU

F***ING YOUR BEST FRIEND'S

WIFE?

(CHUCKLING) YOU'RE IN

"SCOUNDRELS" WAS THE FIRS FILM TO WIN A BEST PICTURE AWARD

AND HOWARD SAID TO ME, CECIL

HOWARD, "YOU'RE NOT GONNA CRACK

ONE JOKE IN THIS.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE-- NO MUGGING

TO THE CAMERA.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE A HAM."

RON JEREMY SCARED ME AT THA TIME, UM...

IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY ODD

BECAUSE, BEFORE I HAD ME RON JEREMY, I HADN'T HEARD

ANYTHING ABOUT HIM, UM, BUT HIS

HEADSHOT TO ME LOOKED LIKE

HOWARD WAS A TOUGH GUY.

CECIL HOWARD WAS TOUGH.

HE WANTED THINGS HIS WAY.

BUT I RESPECT THAT.

I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH

CECIL HOWARD, AND HE WAS ONE OF

MY FAVORITE DIRECTORS,

AND I WORKED FOR HIM

EVERYTHING IN THE MOVIE IS

VERY DARK LIT AND VERY DARK

IN GENERAL.

THE DRAMA OF THE MOVIE, I THINK,

AH, I'M GONNA CHANGE.

THAT'LL BE THE DAY.

IT'S A FASCINATING

PSYCHODRAMA.

THROUGHOUT THE MOVIE,

I'M IN CLOWN WHITE

TALKING ABOUT MY LIFE.

I'VE BEEN GOOD.

I'VE BEEN REAL GOOD.

F*** IT, NOBODY TELLS THE TRUTH

ALL THE TIME.

EVERYBODY'S F***ING EVERYBODY

IN THIS MOVIE, BUT IT'S NOT A

HAPPY-GO-LUCKY THING, YOU KNOW.

THE DOCTOR IS CHEATING ON HIS,

UM, HIS WIFE WITH HIS SECRETARY.

AND, YOU KNOW, HIS SECRETARY'S

CHEATING ON HIM WITH HIS BES FRIEND WHO, I BELIEVE, HIS WIFE

IS ALSO SLEEPING WITH.

(SIGHING)

AND THEN THEY HAVE THIS TEENAGE

DAUGHTER WHO FEELS INVISIBLE.

MY PERFECT PARENTS.

THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING

ABOUT ME.

WHAT DO I LIKE?

I LIKE MAKING LOVE.

SO SHE'S TAKING IT OU BY BECOMING A WHORE

AND HAVING ALL THE SEX

IN THE WORLD THAT SHE CAN.

SHE'S THE GIRL AT THE CANDY

STORE ON THE CORNER.

THAT'S WHY I GET TO SEE HER

EVERY DAY, AND THEN FINALLY,

I JUST TELL HER TO HOP IN.

SHE GETS IN MY CAR, AND WE'RE

GONNA ESCAPE AND RUN AWAY.

MY MOM ALWAYS TOLD ME

I SHOULD MARRY A DOCTOR.

(HORN HONKING)

(SCREAMING)

WE CRASH MY CAR AND DIE.

WHICH IS CERTAINLY A STATEMEN AGAINST INFIDELITY, YOU KNOW?

EVERYBODY HAS A DARK SIDE,

AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO HIDE

NO MATTER HOW PRETTY

YOUR SURROUNDINGS ARE.

AND THIS MOVIE REALLY DIGS INTO

EVERYBODY'S SEXUALLY DEVIAN DARK SIDE.

NO ONE FILMS LIKE

THAT ANYMORE.

CECIL HOWARD, CHUCK VINCENT,

RADLEY METZGER, HENRI PACHARD,

ANTHONY SPINELLI ON THE WES COAST, THESE GUYS MADE FILMS

WHICH HAD SEX IN IT.

BY THE WAY, WHAT'S YOUR NAME?

ELIZABETH.

THAT'S A NICE NAME.

SPINELLI, HIS NAME WAS SAM,

HE WAS THE BACKBONE

HE WAS MORE THAN, UH,

A TALENTED DIRECTOR.

HE WAS MAKING THE BEST MOVIES.

AND HE BECAME A FRIEND

AND A MENTOR.

ANTHONY SPINELLI...

WHO IS...

HE WAS MY-- HE'S A DIRECTOR.

HE'S MY DAD.

IT WAS A GREAT TEAM.

HE WOULD USUALLY SAY,

"I HAVE AN IDEA."

AND I'D GO, AND I'D WRITE THE

ROUGH DRAFT, AND WE, UH,

SHOWED IT TO HIM, AND WE--

GREAT COLLABORATION,

THE PLOT OF "NOTHING TO HIDE"

REALLY REMINDED ME OF

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